84 has got this… Just once she calms down the answer will come to her.
Unless the life lesson is sometimes there is no right answer. Or to put it another way sometimes you just can’t win.
Personally, I think, (really really hope,) that it will be neither of these. But you just never know.
The good news is that what you said is unlikely. The Mist Gate Guardian said there really is an Eye to be retrieved in the Egg. It’s not a question without a right answer.
That said, it’s given that figuring it out is not easy. :-/
I’d be panicking too in her place.
I’m wondering if we’ve already seen it. But “eye at the heart” is the only real clue.
No, Baba Yaga gave another clue – “The eye is just THAT, called by NO OTHER NAME” – so anything that has an eye in it, or looks like an eye, but could be called something else, is not “The Eye”, it’s just “an eye” – an eyeball, a lamp made of eyes, Peter Capaldi’s eye, etc.
Once you find something that is not possible to call anything other than “the eye”, you’ve found it.
Or “The I”. The whole journey to the center was set up to teach 84 about who she really is. She’s at the center. She just has to realize that she is “The I”.
Your interpretation is crazy enough that it just might be true.
it follows the classical ‘hero’s Journey’ model very well. Call to adventure>Refusal>Forced into it>Magical Assistance>Series of tests. She’s at the ‘earning the victory’ stage, soon to be followed by the ‘realization that the person who returns home will not be the same ‘you’ as who left.’.
The only problem with that, as pointed out on the previous page or two, is that this puzzle has been around for a very VERY long time. It works in english, but what language was it originally conceived in?
But THIS instance of the puzzle IS in english, right down to all the inhabitants (including Baba Yaga) not only speaking english, but reasonably modern english at that, so the puzzle relying on english usage does not seem beyond the pale.
It also fits the old (albeit overused) trope of “the power was in you all along”. She is the “I at the centre of the egg” and once she realises it the puzzle will be complete.
Got a hunch it will be something like “I am the hero you seek” or “I am the one”
maybe it’s the center. Like “The Eye” of the storm?
Or…. she just needs to center herself, then she becomes the eye in her own storm.
It’s also something that the creator of the egg did not call an eye.
The fog portal said, “It was clever to call it that, so you could get past the guardians of the first gate.” And if you go back to that panel (2014-12-10), the guardians say there is no “eye” on the list of things they’re supposed to protect.
But that is just the issue, is it not?
Everything that is has at least two names.
According to wikipedia “An eye is an organ of vision.” So it is called an eye. And an organ of vision.
Of course there have been some Films and Episodes called “The Eye”, maybe she is just looking for a DVD/VHS casette?
Hmm, “eye” and “heart” can both refer to the center of something. “Eye of the storm.” “Heart of the matter.” I wonder if it’s at the center of the room, or something the rooms is centered on.
Love the fez on the lamp (nothing to do with eyes, but it’s there because fez’s are cool), which makes four who references in the last two pages.
Gaa! Autocorrect math error! 2+1 = three, not four (though it may approach four for sufficiently large values of 1 and 2)!
I’m calling it now. What with all the Who references, she’s looking for the Eye of Rassilon.
So she just hefts the whole house full of eyes back and says “its in here somewhere” ? lol
But possibly that Baba Yaga clue
That would probably count as ‘getting clever’. If Baba Yaga can’t get away with it, I doubt Julie will.
anything and everything can be called something else, there is literally nothing which could have no other name, the answer then is literally nothing the correct answer is to take nothing, something that seems quite likely to occur if only by accident when time runs out.
that does seem like it would be in keeping with the style of the challenge thus far, a trap to outsmart those who over think the challenge because every answer is the wrong one.
I wonder if it will turn out to be a matter of 84 declaring ” – I – am the opponent you seek”. Gives the second speech bubble in the first panel a certain meta-humour if so.
This room being full of eyes makes the perplexity of the first guardians at being told the party was looking for an eye surprising… unless the room has magic to show illusions matching what is in the hero’s mind, but still, it’s a bit weak there.
They aren’t necessarily tasked with guarding everything in the area. For that matter, the eye itself might not be something they care about. It could be that it just happens to be in the same general area as the heart.
Unless the vast majority of that stuff is only there for confusion/misdirection value and isn’t actually on the list of stuff they (the first guardians) are supposed to guard. Maybe there’s only the real “eye” and a handful of treasures; everything else is expendable.
If the very theme of “inside the egg” last room is eyes, that means someone knows the heroes would be looking for an eye. If that someone built the room, he built the guardians… so why are the guardians perplexed by a quest for an eye since it is obviously (given the room) expected that the heroes would look for it? It is illogical as far as obstacle consistency goes… unless the room’s content only reflects all possible incarnations of what is in the hero’s mind… or if all this is not made by koshei at all but is simply a test by Veles (in which case, there are some other problems with the story)
It actually might be deliberate – related to “clues increasing the lasting power of magical wards” (as Conjurer stated way back when).
So – assume the target really is the needle’s eye. Allowing a clever response to get past the first guardians enhances the longevity of the magic, so “eye” is left as a “backdoor password” while the more-likely-to-be-stated “needle” will invoke the guardian’s wrath. Thus, those who get through are likely to be looking for an “eye”, hence the use of many distracting “eyes” in the final room.
Perhaps the “I” is 84 herself
I wonder if Mike Wazowski (or a toy version) is in there somewhere. . .
She is overthinking it. The Eye at the Heart is probably her…. as in “It’s me! “I” am the Heart”
Simple. The ‘Eye’ that she is looking for is… herself. It’s a voyage of self-discovery that can only end when she finds ‘I’
Nope, that doesn’t fit the clues, not only because they were presented to us as text written “eye” (and not “I” at all), but also because Baba Yaga’s clue doesn’t fit either – she would never call herself “The eye”, but there are lots of names she does call herself, “me”, “myself”, “Julie”, and “84” all come to mind. The eye she’s looking for is not called anything but “the eye”.
That’s the same reason it can’t be “The Eye of Rassilon” as suggested by The Other Mike, since “of Rassilon” is part of that one’s name.
Some people have already pointed out that ‘the eye of the needle’ would be classically appropriate.
No other name for it is really good, it’s a ‘hollow’ or a ‘passage’ one supposes, but those are descriptions in general.
A big gem can be called ‘The Eye Of Carlsbad’ or whatever but it’s also ‘a ruby’.
And the big thing is that the guards out front, when she said she was looking for an eye, wouldn’t have cared because they are really guarding a needle. The eye comes along with it.
Well.. 84 hasn’t tried to call it yet.
Wonder if it would come to her if she called it by name?
If only she knew what name to call it. Oh. Well, it’s a thought. I’m sure 84’s will be better.
After all, she’s the Champion of Earth.
It is only called “eye” and nothing else. So the name is “eye.”
the answer is “I” maybe?
So… do we know for sure that it is “Eye” and not “I”? could it be a voyage of self-discovery, a test of identity? Baba’s clue seems ambiguous though, if that’s the case. But some of the other clues/tests seem to resonate with that theme, at least for me…
Maybe it’s one of her own eyes?
Eye for one would be very disappointed if the answer does turn out to be “I” as in “I am Julie”. That’d be just plain poor storytelling.
Can I joggle the webmaster’s elbow?
“Volume 9″ covered about 11 months of posts, and was divided into 6 “Issues”, each of which can be reached through the pull-down menu in the link bar.
“Volume 10″ has been going on for a year now with no subdivision.
Add to that the fact that each post is named for the date it was posted, and there isn’t a predictable number of days between posts, and … searching for exactly what Veles said about the eye is kinda difficult, because it isn’t particularly close to either the beginning or the present.
Volumes 1-9 were compendiums of the print runs. Hence, they have the individual issues as subdivisions. Aaron remarked somewhere or other that he wished he had gotten rid of that for the print/online compendiums, since the stories were more long arcs by the end.
Volume 10 is a stand-alone graphic novel.
Something else (besides a needle) that has a feature called an eye, but is not itself an eye: a peacock feather.
That’s…actually pretty good. Better than all the other suppositions over the last page. Still fails the ‘only called an eye’ test.
One more possible red herring to ponder:
A few commenters have been suggesting that she should be looking at the exact center of the room, but is this room actually the heart of the egg?
The reason this might be something to question is that if you flip back a few pages, where the Mist Guardian hints that she has to figure out what “the eye” actually is, and we see the words from (what will turn out to be) Baba Yaga, 84/Julie is flying to the door over a cobble or brickwork patio.
The cobbles or bricks are arranged in a concentric semi-circular pattern, and it sure looks like the center of the pattern is under the threshold of the door itself.
So maybe she was supposed to open the door, and immediately look down?
Especially since she just emphasized the word “down” while looking downward?
My post last page (drag the entire room back to Velis and make him sort it out) seems like a better idea all the time. Definitionally, SOMETHING would be included in EVERYTHING, even ten year olds (and possibly even gods) get that part of set theory.
Baba Yaga said the eye is THAT, called by no other name. So Julie needs to find something that makes anyone who sees it say “what is THAT?” and there is no name for it because it’s just too weird. Anything that is identifiable as an eye is therefore wrong….
I like the way you think
I’m pondering the scene with Baba Yaga a bit more.
She seems to suddenly know quite a bit about Julie’s background, including specific knowledge about the stories she knows. Now, maybe it’s because she’s the goddamn Baba Yaga and can just do that, but I also wonder if the item being sought has a power, called “the eye”. That is to say, it confers magical insight. And Baba Yaga uses that power to understand Julie. But Baba Yaga can’t claim the item itself, because she is prevented from doing so by the egg.
That might also be why Baba Yaga leaves the scene, rather than stay and point out the exact item to Julie, so that she can leave the trap she’s been in. Julie could then gain magical insight into Baba Yaga, and Baba Yaga would rather not experience that.
And having that power for herself might make Julie a more worthy opponent for Veles than just her FISS powers alone.
Personally I think she will realize the answer is “I”
do you suppose all this critique is slowing down production as Aaron has to change things just to keep it a surprise?
If his original plan was to have “eye” be “I”, or have Julie take back the building, then I certainly hope he changes it. Because way too many people are guessing those.
Nah – every now and then he lets somebody get it right.
Ah. It has to be 84 herself, because the villain wants a new, worthy opponent, so 84 would be the “I” in the center that he wants.
One more idea: An item that could have a feature or decoration that looks like an eye (and that feature would be called an eye and nothing else), but would not be called an eye itself, is a headband or diadem.
And now that I’ve written that, it feels familiar. Has there been a character wearing a headband with an eye?
Dr. Strange’s Eye of Agamotto ?
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