And 20 years in the Future, 84 is wildly considered one of the two greatest heroes of all time (Moon Shadow, of course being the other one) because of the lessons she learns here …
The lessons she learned here, true…but I think that the more important thing is that she’s going to be teaching these lessons too. Julie 84, the worlds greatest super hero teacher.
I swear to god, if we do not get an epilogue for after this comic done, I will conduct viciousness against the author for unnecessary cruelty. I want to see what this girl becomes!
To be fair if he doesn’t write an ending that leaves room for fanfic authors to write and less face it. We might have a better chance of the author dying leaving it unfinished than having it simply dropped or left without an ending.
“Have the right parents”, in three out of four tales.
Also, have dead parents.
In most cases that covers having the right parents.
Well, to be specific, you need to have the sort of parent who teaches you all the right lessons and then dies with enough time to spare for you to be past the worst of the grief when the main plot starts.
The Dursley’s were not the “right parents!” Mind you, they were not Harry’s parents, just his guardians.
Nothing wrong with them that a good offing would not have cured.
He still had the right parents. His father was James “Prongs” Potter, unregistered Animagus, youngest Seeker of his generation, and one of the Marauders. Without him, Harry wouldn’t have been a natural talent at flying a broom, had the Marauders’ Map or the Invisibility Cloak, or had a stag for a Patronus.
His mother was Lily Evans, one-time girlfriend of Severus Snape. Without her, he wouldn’t have had Snape on his side up to the last book, keeping him alive. (That’s why Snape always looked him in the eyes — the rest of the face was Prongs, but he had his mother’s eyes.)
Of course, in the end, the choice of hero was actually up to the villain. Voldemort chose the Potters’ child as the one who posed the greatest danger. Otherwise, it would have been Neville Longbottom at the forefront as The Boy Who Lived.
Interesting that Baba Yaga immediately recognizes the ebb and flow of Heroic Ages. Wonder how surprised she’d be to learn that this one is the last one.
Is the last one? Or does it seem to be the last one, because it is the one we are in atm ?
It’s the last one because Tyler decided that people got to keep their powers, meaning this age of heroes wouldn’t end, as had it’s predecessors.
No, that just extended it. Eventually someone else will be given that choice to make again. Tyler’s choice was unusual because it seems to have been the first time we got back to back periods with powers being active.
Or you know keeping the powers will destroy everything , mostly.
No, Tyler’s decision meant that people would be getting powers for good. This is indeed the Final Heroic Age where superpowers are here to stay.
Remember that Vashti Imperia and other magic users from her time preserved themselves between the Heroic Ages. Where her peers reentered history upon the arrival of new ages, she chose to come back for the Final Age, “when humans would hold onto their strange powers for all time” (http://ps238.nodwick.com/comic/09142012/).
I wouldn’t be surprised if Baba Yaga knows more things about time than anyone alive. Knows enough to even know when the time mages/heroes are wrong.
Besides, wasn’t there certain point in time that even the kid with time powers could not see past? Maybe that time is the next age of none powers.
@TxGator- no, the point that Tom couldn’t see (or travel) past was when Tyler was asked the question. Once Tyler gave his answer it allowed Tom to travel beyond that point.
I’ll give her Aladdin, Cinderella and King Arthur, but how does she know about Harry Potter and not know it’s one of those ages again?
Perhaps it’s because everyone in the magic world knows Harry Potter… 😉
The same way she knew of 84 not singing her own praises.
Umm… King Arthur did not have a Happy Ending.
He also didn’t start as the “lowest of the low” so they’re both wrong there.
“One of these things is not like the others…”
He was born a prince, but he was immediately abandoned to be the foundling of Sir Kay wasn’t he? He wasn’t even permitted to the rank of squire before he drew the sword from the stone.
So while it could have been a little worse, he was still pretty low in the pecking order.
Fosterage was a common medieval practice, though.
She said <b?mostly about the lowest of the low.
She also said those in power should be aware of those beneath them, which Arthur failed at.
Actually, it depends on which version. If you ignore the parts that the French added to his story, than it does.
Wait a minute! Baba Yaga entered first! Is she playing 84 for a chump?
That’s not the door to the final room/vault/whatever. Completely different design, and appears to be freestanding as well. Looks more like she conjured up an exit with that casting from last strip – maybe a backdoor into her hut? I’d guess she’s no longer trapped, and her release condition was to have a mentor chat with whoever got past the mist gate next.
Yes. In this egg, Fairy Tale Rules apply:-
1. She’s playing the role of the Wicked Witch leading an unsuspecting child into her lair.
2. The first words she spoke to Julie were a lie, Baba Yaga is guarding the final door & Julie should fear her.
Generally under Fairy Tale Rules, guardians aren’t allowed to lie, only give misleading (but technically true) answers.
Neither did Voldemort. Or Maghreb/Jafar in Aladdin. Or the wicked stepmother/stepsisters/father, depending on the version.
I never noticed it that theme.
That was supposed to be in reply to Rev. Mik McAllister up there.
To clarify, all of those tales have the theme that those in power should wary of those from humble origins. Arthur is unique in that he is a protagonist who didn’t learn that lesson.
In that list, the protagonist is the one that “those in power” have to be wary of, despite their humble origins. So it’s not a lesson for Arthur to have learned…
While Arthur wasn’t really from the “lowest of the low,” he was raised in a somewhat minor noble family and largely overlooked as a squire until his true heritage was revealed by drawing Excalibur, playing to the theme Baba Yaga outlined. Those In Power were the various low kings and other powerful lords who underestimated him and rose up in revolt before he successfully bested them, becoming high king in practicality as well as in name.
Ignoring the lowest of the low isn’t really what brought Arthur’s downfall, either. Mordred was hardly lowly: in at least one version he was already steward of the kingdom while Arthur was out on campaign and used the opportunity to try to usurp the throne, which ultimately lead to the division in the kingdom that killed them both. That’s not the lowest of the low coming up to unseat the unwary powerful, that’s treachery from within by one’s right hand.
He drew the Sword in the Stone. Excalibur was given to him by a watery tart.
In some versions, Excalibur was drawn from the stone. However, in the version I have, when Arthur drew the sword from the stone in battle its brilliance would blind his foes. However, in one battle the sword from the stone was broken. Merlin told Arthur he might be able to get another sword neaby, which turned out to be Excalibur (from the Lady of the Lake). What I also remember, was that Merlin chastised Arthur for saying that the sword was more valuable than the sheath, where Merlin indicated that the sheath was far more valuable than Excalibur.
Yeah, the sheath had magic that would insure that no wound could kill Arthur as long as he wore it. His belt broke when he took that last stab at Mordred, so Mordred’s reprisal finished him off too.
This is a FISS storyline. This is the Baba Yaga teaching their representative what they should do.
They’re showing the world they’re not to be looked down on (Baba Yaga’s 1st lesson). Who got Bertramzilla out of the city? Not the other heroes, despite their derision for the FISS, but the guys they looked down on. Did Neuronet or the Conjuror get through to the final goal of the egg? No, despite their high esteem for their abilities and because of their arrogance.
At the same time, the FISS are not going to get the respect they want if they don’t promote themselves at least a little bit (her 2nd lesson). We’ve seen this with both Phlo and Firedrake. Phlo is the smarter, more effective hero but she’s relegated to the background. Firedrake pointed out that you need to make yourself flashy but we also know he’s not arrogant and high-and-mighty. He was quite honest about himself, in fact.
Humility has always been a tricky virtue. But it’s worth it.
And.. has she delayed her long enough yet?
I dunno if Veles WANTS Julie to lose, at this point.
Veles not only wants Julie to win, he knew she would from the start – he just wanted a way to:
1) Force her to accept the position of “nemesis” so he could have a decent challenge again, and
2) Force everyone else to accept that she was the one for the job, by putting their “best” representitives into a challenge with her that he knew only she could succeed at.
It will be interesting to see what Veles will do while he waiting for Julie to grow up. He seems to be bored with life right now. someone said this a while ago and it would be fun to see Veles become a Teacher at PS238.
I will also state that I got a strong vibe of a semi-flashback scene from Dune (novel) where Paul remembers the lessons he received from the Reverend Mother on ruling.
“The second is that being overly humble rarely makes one a better hero unless you’re in a fairy tale.”
I’m probably splitting hairs here, but since 84 is technically in a fairy tale at this moment, does this mean she need to continue being humble until she gets out?
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