Exactly.”To get metahuman powers, pay one Tyler.” Tyler should be humbled that he is worth that much as currency.
Also, two sizes of clothes, so either two people are in on it, or the metahuman abilities includes going from child sized girl to adult woman.
Sarah said she used to be a shapeshifter and she most likely wants shapeshifting powers so that she can be herself again. So it seems likely that they let her get by on an I.O.U.
I read it as ‘powers for (use by) 1 Tyler Marlocke’. In which case:
AWWWwwwww… someone’s had a secret crush on him. 🙂
Looking at the flip side of that possibility – powers in exchange for him, Tyler is clearly the ‘destined’ type from Use Sword On Monster. He doesn’t *need* powers himself, because he gets railroaded by ‘fate’ constantly. Plot armor could be incredibly useful if you can sway Tyler to your side, and thus be under the umbrella of beneficiaries. (kinda like that Piers Anthony Xanth sorcerer whose entire power is incurable luck and everything turns out well for him regardless of what he does)
Sarah never lost her powers. The Psychic who made her transform herself into a body without powers is controlling her, or left her with a post-hypnotic suggestions or some such. That’s a minor detail. What matters is that Sarah is both a girl and a red-headed woman who are under a villain’s manipulation.
That’s what Sarah told the group. The theory you’re responding to is taking it as given that what Sarah told the group was either false, or leaving out important details. And we can be pretty sure that she did leave out important details.
Consider: P&G spoke as if Sarah was the only one who had come to the shop, but the person who came in the night was much taller than the short, dark-haired girl we saw in the therapy session who later barged into the shop.
However, the above theory doesn’t take into account that Cecil can detect powers, and says nothing about Sarah still having them.
Maybe PSwarp “took” the ability to change Sarah into different forms?
Cecil doesn’t say anything about Sarah not having powers.
I doubt a psychic can make someone take their own powers away, but I bet they can brainwash someone into believing they can. An adult red-head is what Sarah used to be. We have an adult red-head who only Cecil finds familiar. Why is Cecil the only one to find a character that has never appeared before in the comic familiar? What can Cecil do that no one else can do?
Sarah left, ostensibly NOT to go to the bathroom. Now her clothes and her receipt from Power and Glory are hidden in an air duct. Why are they there? Did she leave them there or was Sarah kidnapped, stripped and had her stuff stolen? That’s rather dark for Aaron in general and this comic in particular, also a very weird sort of crime. It’s far more likely that she put them there herself.
The person who talked to P&G at the beginning of chapter 2 was much taller than Sarah. She was looking for powers. Sarah shows up at P&G later at her regular Sarah height, no disguise, still looking for powers. She is stated to be P&G’s only customer. P&G are not freaked out by this, not even mildly phased, but considering how unphased they were with Charles randomly teleporting in on them, this does not surprise me.
Because Sarah is P&G’s only customer and was taller when she first talked to P&G and is shorter the second time, we know Sarah can still shape shift. Sarah does not seem to know she can still shape shift. Her reaction when she has to ‘go to the bathroom’ is very similar to the reactions of the brainwashed people back at the casino in Vegas.
If that document was our sole evidence, that’d be believable, but the fact that P&G contacted her directly just before she started pursuing this indicates that they know SHE wants the powers, and that she’s working to fulfill her part of the bargain.
Now, it’s also possible that she is DELIVERING powers to Tyler as her payment, or arranging an “accident” to give him some, but let’s be honest; if P&G wanted to do that, all they’d have to do is tell Ultima or Sovereign, “Make your kid drink this and he gets the powers he always deserved.” They could probably name their own price for it, too.
It’s interesting that Ultima & Sovereign haven’t already tried to hook Tyler up with powers via P&G. Is it because they simply didn’t know about P&G? Or perhaps, they do… and they don’t like what they know.
I can’t say I trust P&G. I agree with Varic Tethras that those whose reason to fight is for power and glory, lose their humanity. The shop is a honey trap.
It is indeed the same color as Sarah’s shirt. So does she have shapechange powers again? She can’t have consciously had them all this time or else why go through all this?
What is Power & Glory’s agenda? This update scares me on that point. They either want Tyler to have powers or they want Tyler himself. Either way, why? What does it gain them? How does their business work? They seem so personable yet that doesn’t mean they don’t have sinister purposes. WHO are they? Who is Tyler to them?
What if it has something to do with Toby? Maybe he went to power & glory to purchase powers for Tyler, and stuck the receipt in her bag. (loads of ppl probably thought of this already but whatever) Maybe Toby purchased the powers, but Sarah stole them from him? Endlesss possiblilities!
Hmmm…One set of powers for one Tyler Marlocke…Tyler gets powers and so does she? Or does Tyler need to be delivered to P&G in order for Sarah to gain her powers? Could be read either way…
Hrm. P&G were already coming across as pretty sinister. Unless there’s a twist to this “invoice” this pushes them straight into supervillain territory…
I actually got the opposite from them so far.
Greater good, not quite butterfly effect, making changes.
I get a ‘keeping thing on track for gods grand plan’ vibe though the ‘god’ bit seems entirely wrong. Who are they working for?
Aha! And that would also explain why she’s so certain that Tyler already knows about P&G! She doesn’t know that the invoice she stole was actually belonged to Toby, and thought that Tyler had made the bargain for himself.
I went back and did some reading:
*Sarah used to be a red-head
*Power & Glory early on said to Sarah “Bring what’s on your invoice and you can have what you want”.
*Sarah recently said that she thinks that she can get superpowers for all three of them, before being interrupted by the former supervillain.
*Sarah had to run off to the bathroom because of the time right after that.
*Cecil feels that the Unnamed Red superheroine is familiar, but doesn’t remember how.
My conclusions:
*The unnamed Red Super /is/ Sarah. I’m unsure how she managed it, currently
*That invoice is what she needs to pay to get her permanent powers.
The wording of the invoice is ambiguous. If it’s what she has to pay Power & Glory to get what she wants, then the payment is, literally, to get powers for Tyler. Once Tyler gets powers, then she’ll get powers too.
P&G must want Tyler for a reason, but not Toby. Maybe it has something to do with the orb-thingy that everyone is speculating siphons off the chaotic energy from Toby’s powers?
Well, that’s not good.
Hmm… there’s a part of me that seriously wonders whether this is what she’s getting, or what she’s paying… either one could work.
Even more disturbing, what if that’s describing the entire exchange?
D: I hadn’t even thought of that!
You could be right. I had assumed that this was Toby’s receipt but this sort of makes more sense.
Exactly.”To get metahuman powers, pay one Tyler.” Tyler should be humbled that he is worth that much as currency.
Also, two sizes of clothes, so either two people are in on it, or the metahuman abilities includes going from child sized girl to adult woman.
Sarah said she used to be a shapeshifter and she most likely wants shapeshifting powers so that she can be herself again. So it seems likely that they let her get by on an I.O.U.
I think Tyler has had a few hundred bad experiences with people willing to make that trade already.
I don’t think “humbled” is the right word. “Flattered,” maybe. “Concerned,” definitely.
Still curious why/how she’s size-changing. But nice to have it near-confirmed that we were guessing right as to who our mystery super is.
I just noticed that Tyler’s in his Moon Shadow getup. I guess Cecil shrank the bag and Tyler put on his gear.
I wouldn’t be surprised if The Revenant gave him a pre-shrunk costume in case of exactly this thing happening.
“Hmm, shrink ray. You’ll need this.” “This is just an action figure.”
I read it as ‘powers for (use by) 1 Tyler Marlocke’. In which case:
AWWWwwwww… someone’s had a secret crush on him. 🙂
Looking at the flip side of that possibility – powers in exchange for him, Tyler is clearly the ‘destined’ type from Use Sword On Monster. He doesn’t *need* powers himself, because he gets railroaded by ‘fate’ constantly. Plot armor could be incredibly useful if you can sway Tyler to your side, and thus be under the umbrella of beneficiaries. (kinda like that Piers Anthony Xanth sorcerer whose entire power is incurable luck and everything turns out well for him regardless of what he does)
That’s the shirt and bag that Sarah, from the meta-human support group, was wearing back at the start of all this before she went to the ‘bathroom’.
Sarah never lost her powers. The Psychic who made her transform herself into a body without powers is controlling her, or left her with a post-hypnotic suggestions or some such. That’s a minor detail. What matters is that Sarah is both a girl and a red-headed woman who are under a villain’s manipulation.
Actually, the villain forced her to turn into a person who didn’t have superpowers. They’re gone.
That’s what Sarah told the group. The theory you’re responding to is taking it as given that what Sarah told the group was either false, or leaving out important details. And we can be pretty sure that she did leave out important details.
Consider: P&G spoke as if Sarah was the only one who had come to the shop, but the person who came in the night was much taller than the short, dark-haired girl we saw in the therapy session who later barged into the shop.
However, the above theory doesn’t take into account that Cecil can detect powers, and says nothing about Sarah still having them.
Maybe PSwarp “took” the ability to change Sarah into different forms?
Cecil doesn’t say anything about Sarah not having powers.
I doubt a psychic can make someone take their own powers away, but I bet they can brainwash someone into believing they can. An adult red-head is what Sarah used to be. We have an adult red-head who only Cecil finds familiar. Why is Cecil the only one to find a character that has never appeared before in the comic familiar? What can Cecil do that no one else can do?
Sarah left, ostensibly NOT to go to the bathroom. Now her clothes and her receipt from Power and Glory are hidden in an air duct. Why are they there? Did she leave them there or was Sarah kidnapped, stripped and had her stuff stolen? That’s rather dark for Aaron in general and this comic in particular, also a very weird sort of crime. It’s far more likely that she put them there herself.
The person who talked to P&G at the beginning of chapter 2 was much taller than Sarah. She was looking for powers. Sarah shows up at P&G later at her regular Sarah height, no disguise, still looking for powers. She is stated to be P&G’s only customer. P&G are not freaked out by this, not even mildly phased, but considering how unphased they were with Charles randomly teleporting in on them, this does not surprise me.
Because Sarah is P&G’s only customer and was taller when she first talked to P&G and is shorter the second time, we know Sarah can still shape shift. Sarah does not seem to know she can still shape shift. Her reaction when she has to ‘go to the bathroom’ is very similar to the reactions of the brainwashed people back at the casino in Vegas.
Just when you thought Aaron was phoning in his plot twists…
Or she was pretending the powers were for Tyler not herself. Identity theft to acquire what some power/glory think he’s earned.
If that document was our sole evidence, that’d be believable, but the fact that P&G contacted her directly just before she started pursuing this indicates that they know SHE wants the powers, and that she’s working to fulfill her part of the bargain.
Now, it’s also possible that she is DELIVERING powers to Tyler as her payment, or arranging an “accident” to give him some, but let’s be honest; if P&G wanted to do that, all they’d have to do is tell Ultima or Sovereign, “Make your kid drink this and he gets the powers he always deserved.” They could probably name their own price for it, too.
It’s interesting that Ultima & Sovereign haven’t already tried to hook Tyler up with powers via P&G. Is it because they simply didn’t know about P&G? Or perhaps, they do… and they don’t like what they know.
I can’t say I trust P&G. I agree with Varic Tethras that those whose reason to fight is for power and glory, lose their humanity. The shop is a honey trap.
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I got the sense that the shop is of the magical “only appear to certain people” variety, and the Powers are not those people.
It’s amazing they even remember Tyler exists these days with Toby around
It is indeed the same color as Sarah’s shirt. So does she have shapechange powers again? She can’t have consciously had them all this time or else why go through all this?
What is Power & Glory’s agenda? This update scares me on that point. They either want Tyler to have powers or they want Tyler himself. Either way, why? What does it gain them? How does their business work? They seem so personable yet that doesn’t mean they don’t have sinister purposes. WHO are they? Who is Tyler to them?
What would P&G want him for?
To sell? As a new employee? Just to take him out the equation temporarily?
Hmm… I’m guessing the third option. The first would work too. The second seems unlikely.
Well… Tyler IS the reason for all powers existing.
What if it has something to do with Toby? Maybe he went to power & glory to purchase powers for Tyler, and stuck the receipt in her bag. (loads of ppl probably thought of this already but whatever) Maybe Toby purchased the powers, but Sarah stole them from him? Endlesss possiblilities!
Hmmm…One set of powers for one Tyler Marlocke…Tyler gets powers and so does she? Or does Tyler need to be delivered to P&G in order for Sarah to gain her powers? Could be read either way…
Hrm. P&G were already coming across as pretty sinister. Unless there’s a twist to this “invoice” this pushes them straight into supervillain territory…
I actually got the opposite from them so far.
Greater good, not quite butterfly effect, making changes.
I get a ‘keeping thing on track for gods grand plan’ vibe though the ‘god’ bit seems entirely wrong. Who are they working for?
It certainly seems likely that they don’t think he’d talk to them about it willingly. Else, they wouldn’t be asking that he be obtained.
That is, of course, assuming that particular reading of the invoice.
So Toby like wearing women’s clothes?? In weird sizes??
(Because everyone was speculating HIS “make sure Tyler got powers” plan was a deal with P&G)
Or a slightly more serious answer, I wonder if she’s stealing papers again, like she did at the beginning to get the invite?
Aha! And that would also explain why she’s so certain that Tyler already knows about P&G! She doesn’t know that the invoice she stole was actually belonged to Toby, and thought that Tyler had made the bargain for himself.
Maybe Toby stuck his receipt in Sarah’s bag to throw everyone off the scent, since she was already acting pretty suspicious.
Could it refer to the Powers? Ultima and Sovereign Powers, Tyler’s parents?
That’s an intriguing idea. Someone’s trying to get Tyler a new set of parents?
I went back and did some reading:
*Sarah used to be a red-head
*Power & Glory early on said to Sarah “Bring what’s on your invoice and you can have what you want”.
*Sarah recently said that she thinks that she can get superpowers for all three of them, before being interrupted by the former supervillain.
*Sarah had to run off to the bathroom because of the time right after that.
*Cecil feels that the Unnamed Red superheroine is familiar, but doesn’t remember how.
My conclusions:
*The unnamed Red Super /is/ Sarah. I’m unsure how she managed it, currently
*That invoice is what she needs to pay to get her permanent powers.
“1 Tyler Marlocke.” So, like, she can’t throw in Toby for extra powers, then?
Interesting how the invoice can be parsed in two ways.
a) 1 set of Metahuman powers, to be granted to persons unknown, in exchange for the person of Tyler Marlocke.
b) 1 set of Metahuman powers, to be granted to Tyler Marlocke, in exchange for something unknown.
It looks like most people are parsing it as (a)?
Man I didn’t even think about A) and now I feel dumb.
The wording of the invoice is ambiguous. If it’s what she has to pay Power & Glory to get what she wants, then the payment is, literally, to get powers for Tyler. Once Tyler gets powers, then she’ll get powers too.
P&G must want Tyler for a reason, but not Toby. Maybe it has something to do with the orb-thingy that everyone is speculating siphons off the chaotic energy from Toby’s powers?