At first, the watch’s voice sounded like a automized computer voice to me, but the question about the possibility of Tyler developing powers makes it sound like an over excited Ultima and/or Soverign could be on the other end. 🙂
Or maybe she’s been given injections to provide her with her new power and she has to take them regularly.
…
Or the villain who made her steal her own powers away gave her diabetes as well and she needs insuline shots.
Or she has to get Tyler to a particular time and place as her payment. Or she has to meet someone else at a particular time or place as part of the payment.
To be honest, we don’t have any clue what exactly Sarah has to do for G&P. We can safely assume she crashed the party for it, but what exactly we don’t know. We’re conjecturing that she’s going to steal or leech off someone else’s powers, but we don’t know that for sure.
Here, at least, I think she’s supposed to at least do something *in preparation* for what she’s going to do. She wasn’t able to tell Ron and Tyler more thanks to Lester arriving, so letting them in on it may be out of the question at this point.
Also, I doubt she’s going to do something to Tyler. Why? She already found him and Ron and even surprised them. She wouldn’t have revealed herself and apologized. Lester wasn’t around yet, so if she was going to do it to Tyler, she would have tried it already.
Considering the running gag in the comic I was half-expecting the computer to include a ‘Clay Industries’ advert there at the end although I can see why Tyler’s parents would have had someone else doing the tech for their headquarters. Then again I think the Clay Industries AI would have noticed the multiple instances rather than having to have it pointed out that someone was now appearing twice to the sensors.
It’s probably smack in the middle of it. Remember, when everyone came back from Las Vegas (http://ps238.nodwick.com/comic/06292011/), all of the skyscrapers were in the middle of everything. I doubt that the EDH would be any different, and remember from the first page of the carnival, they were right in front of a tower.
As to the other question, a comment from the last page noted that Sarah probably came to do the job for her superpowers. I mean, what other purposes would she have there, other than being a former superhero? (I’m assuming that she is a kid, but because she was a shapeshifter, she could have been an adult.) I assume that Lester knows something about it, and wants to help her., but with something in return. (Probably from P&Gs boss.) I also note that he probably wants to help Tyler and Ron get in on the action, because he feels a little sorry for them, and because he thinks the job will be easier with both of them there to help.
Well, it can’t be to *ask* him to use his powers to give her back hers. That’s not gonna work given the drawback Toby’s powers have that balance things out.
Whatever she’s doing, it’s the cost or price or currency to get an item G&P have, a specific, one-of-kind she wants. And unless she’s packing tech or magic or some other means, she’s not going to be able to do anything fantastic like stealing someone else’s powers. I doubt G&P have given her anything of the sort- she’s a customer, not a hired agent who’s getting a superpower as payment.
Well IF Sarah knew Toby had that kind of god-like power (which few outside of Tyler have any reason to know) she probably would ask him to restore her powers since he could do so the only question is what would the side-effects be (we know given her mania to get powers back that she likely wouldn’t care what the effects were unless they involved someone’s death or disfigurement but possibly even then). Given Toby’s spent time learning how to determine what the countering effect will be it would be possible to know ahead of time and decide if the counter is something that could be lived with, but it’s quite remote that the story would go in that direction.
And now I’ve just realized Zodon never expected to get through security with Tyler’s DNA, but is instead using it to trigger false alarms to cover up his real attempt.
A more likely solution would be that Zodon thought that the DNA would work, and when it didn’t, panicked and sent out multiple copies of Tyler to try to escape. I wonder what he wanted to do up there? My guess is that he wanted to take control of the EDL weapons and point them at a government base or the van Fogg’s zeppelin, whichever gave him more satisfaction or power.
Well multiple just means more than on, so one fake Tyler and one real one, there you go. The reason it didn’t come up before this was the computer wasn’t actively scanning dna signature outside of secure areas.
Does anyone know how to get in touch with Aaron? I’ve tried repeatedly over the last year to email him, using the email in the “Contact” link at the top of the page, about problems I’ve had with the Nodwick archive and with the RSS feed for PS238. I’ve never gotten a reply and the issues I mentioned have never been addressed. I don’t have a Twitter account and would prefer not to make one just to get in touch with one guy. Any other thoughts?
Don’t tell me; let me guess: Perchance does the Nodwick issue have to do with the image being so small it’s impossible to read the dialog balloons even while holding a magnifying glass up to the screen? Yeah, same here. Best of good luck to you.
Actually it was to do with the year and a half of comics that are missing. And the fact that the RSS feed for PS238 hasn’t worked for me in about a year.
Just so you know, the Nodwick archive comic images are actually readable — in Firefox, for example, if you right-click and choose “View Image”, they show up just fine.
It may be easier if you go to the Firefox menu and choose: View → Page Style → No Style. That also removes the image reduction being applied, and you can still use the “Prev/Next” navigation links. Just remember that the absence of styles will apply to the tab you did that on for any other page you visit, so they will probably look wrong.
If you’re using Chrome, you can right-click on the image and choose “Open image in new tab”, which will also allow you to see the image at full (legible) scale.
If you’re not using a Firefox- or Chrome-based browser, I am not sure what can be done.
If Moonshadow does try to get past the security systems, his DNA will be flagged as being Tyler’s. But with multiple false readings around, that might lead to them being ignored…
If Tyler (imposter) is clearly upto no good then Tyler might be classed as an enemyperson of interest to the earth defence league. I doubt if he will be allowed back.
There’s nothing so fantastic as that. The computer was simply not actively monitoring anything but secure areas, when Zodon breached a secure area using Tyler’s hair to fake his DNA signature in place of Zodon’s own (he likes framing Tyler after all, like using one of Tyler’s marbles early on to hack the iris scanner on the old super-hero station in PS238’s ‘basement’) THEN the computer acted and sent out the alert. It wasn’t until a Chaperone told it ‘Uh I’ve got Tyler right here and we aren’t near level 3’ that it began scanning the non-secure areas and saw that another Tyler was showing up at which point after ensuring he hadn’t developed self-duplication did the pragmatic thing and simply asked for security to bring all instances of Tyler showing up to the same location and just to be on the safe side began a system diagnostic of its sensors in case they were defective.
If you’re using Chrome, you can right-click on the image and choose “Open image in new tab”, which will also allow you to see the image at full (legible) scale.
If you’re not using a Firefox- or Chrome-based browser, I am not sure what can be done.
She may even have been an adult superhero. If we assume that her being shapechanged to a form without powers is correct, we can assume that her shapechange was complete enough that she’s also have the personality of the child or teenager form she has now.
It also means that she had some pretty strong and heavy shapechange powers previously.
The thing is though she says that she was mentally commanded to assume a form that had no powers, without further statement from her or someone else that he also included ‘turn yourself into a girl at the same time’ that what we see is her actual, natural age since she’d have no reason from an order to just render herself powerless to also adopt a physical form that was a different age. We also aren’t given any reason to think the villain that depowered her included any extra orders for her to adopt a different age so without reason to otherwise we have to consider that what we see is her normal, natural age and appearance (other than the noted hair color change).
While I don’t think this LIKELY, it is possible that “a form without her powers” could have translated to “a form too young to have yet developed them” at some point in the decision-making process (whether her subconscious one or not).
This could be part of another time hopping thing.
Which could explain why Sarah keeps thinking that Tyler knows what its about because ‘future’ Tyler does but ‘current’ Tyler does not.
It’s not a time travel thing, or at least if so it’d be problematic.
In-story, the loose ends from the Zodon time travel story have been wrapped up, plus Tom said Tyler was mostly done with time travel (12252009). It would have to be a time-travelling Tyler from far enough from the future not to contradict that but he’d be much older and thus Sarah wouldn’t confuse him with present-day Tyler.
From a writing perspective, it’d mean Aaron would be exploring time travel again. It’d be repetitive since time travel is just the domain of one or two characters in the story where PS238 is really about superheroes, supervillains, and superpowers in general.
Anyway…
Sarah just thinks that G&P are the only source of superpowers in town, so Ron’s story (05302014, 2016-04-22) to her must either be a lie or the voice in it was actually how G&P contacted him (although we know it was really Cecil). According to 2016-04-27, Dr. Newby didn’t believe Ron, so we can assume neither do the others, including Sarah. Since Tyler hangs around Ron a lot and has “his own” reason to want superpowers, she assumes Tyler too knows about G&P (in 2016-05-02, she warned Ron first).
She’s desperate. It’s not just about losing her superpowers but she seems to have lost her identity with them (2016-04-13). It doesn’t help that (2016-05-20):
a) the specific powers/item she wants are one-of-a-kind so someone else could take them before she does, and
b) G&P are secretive about it as well.
So now Sarah’s been given the price for getting the powers she wants, there’s a super-kids party she’s crashing because it’s somehow related to her getting her powers back, and she may as well involve Ron and Tyler because they’re there and in the know (even if they’re actually not). She’s calmed down enough to realize that even if they get powers, they won’t (necessarily) be getting what she wants.
There’s probably some kind of powers sensor that helps separate Toby from Tyler. Or Toby’s powers keep generating ‘error-anomaly’ reports and the sensors check for that.
Among other things, one’s a lefty and the other a righty. Never can remember which is which though. I think Tyler’s the southpaw, but his primary tool is on his right hand.
Did anyone notice that the P&G question mirrors Reverent’s?
“How did you hear of us?”
I hope it ll be made clear soon.
Archive binging makes it doublely hard to wait for the once a week updates.
Has anyone ever noticed that in comics, even though the characters might be only 3 or 4 years older, they are double the height of the older one? I mean, if this were in scale, and Lester were our height, then Tyler and every other kid would be around 3 feet. This makes no sense. And if it were the other way, then the adults would be like 9 or 10 feet tall! I know that this sounds OCD, but I just think it is weird.
Kids – and even teens – tend to be unreasonably short in cartoons. It makes the age differences easier to depict. The interesting thing is that you can oft tell which age group of kids (little, prepubescent, or teen) a show is aimed at by the relative heights. The main character cast will generally be about 1/2 to 3/4 the height of “adult” characters. “Older kids” will be adult-height (especially if they’re “teens” compared to “little” or “pubescent” kids), while “younger kids” will be about half the main cast’s height.
So if a show is for 7-10-year-olds, teens might be adult height, because “teens are huge” to the main cast. But if it’s about middle-schoolers or young high schoolers, the main cast will be at least one head shorter than adults as a general rule.
(Rugrats is the most notable exception I can think of, but the target audience was significantly older than the baby-aged cast, so making the babies roughly correctly relative sized to the parents makes sense, there.)
I know this isn’t very likely, but what if one of the “Tyler’s” is actually Cecil sneaking into the party? I can totally see him swiping Tyler’s fingerprints, which would at least get him into the green areas of the tower.
Cecil takes the initiative without asking others, does what he wants, etc., but he’s not a jerk. His method involves a cloaking device and not identity theft- and how’d he pull of said theft anyway? Would he go so far as to ask Vance for the tech?
And he’s there to have fun. He likes to snoop but I think breaking that deep into top-secret areas (even if convinced it’d for Bureau of the Assessment of Metahumans purposes) is too far for him.
I think rather that there are only *two* multiple detections of Tyler: 1) Tyler himself, and 2) Zodon. You only need to be greater than one to be plural, funnily enough.
Chris W has a very good point: why doesn’t Tyler tell anyone about Zodon taking his hair?
Even after reading to the current end of the archive (July 2018), I suspect that the Powers’ neglect and emotional abuse of their son is now going to bite them on the ass, hard. Tyler knows Zodon likely won’t hurt anyone, and since the Tower is no longer his home and no one there cares about him, Tyler doesn’t care about them, either. Why should he warn anyone there about Zodon’s plans?
“Attention security! Tyler Marlock has metamorphed into a large-headed bald child in a hover chair!”
Seriously, good thing they were having that conversation, isn’t it?
And… the bad guy on parole is in security?
Chaperone of the party, so for a loose definition of “Security”.
Basically his job is to worry about the kids, the rest of the EDF can worry about whatever else they have there.
He’s probably doing community service. He mentioned something about “House Arrest” on the last page. So perhaps he’s working towards an early release?
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Vote “Murder Rapist” For county Treasurer: He’ll do better at this job than “Embezzling Ponzi-Schemer.”
Vote “Embezzling Ponzi-Schemer” for County Sheriff: Crime does pay.
Vote “Ticket Scalper” For Public Services: He promises to avoid inconvenient price hikes. (Alt: Balancing the budget through inconvenient price hikes)
Vote “Grossly Negligent Factory Owner/Malpracticing lawyer” For President/Vice president
At first, the watch’s voice sounded like a automized computer voice to me, but the question about the possibility of Tyler developing powers makes it sound like an over excited Ultima and/or Soverign could be on the other end. 🙂
Or their obsession has suffused the whole system.
It is actually a legitimate question in a Meta-world.
Two instances of the Exact person ( as obviously the system can differ twins)? Duplication powers or error. And Error is probably a last resort.
Also I like that she’s taking “public evasion” tips from the Superman analogue.
Remind me: do we know of anything she has to do on a regular basis, possibly thanks to her sealed condition?
No, so smart money is on an appointment with someone with power and glory to spare.
Or maybe she’s been given injections to provide her with her new power and she has to take them regularly.
…
Or the villain who made her steal her own powers away gave her diabetes as well and she needs insuline shots.
Can’t be the second, as she didn’t complain about it in the group therapy session.
Could be she had it beforehand and is just embarrassed about it?
Or she has to get Tyler to a particular time and place as her payment. Or she has to meet someone else at a particular time or place as part of the payment.
To be honest, we don’t have any clue what exactly Sarah has to do for G&P. We can safely assume she crashed the party for it, but what exactly we don’t know. We’re conjecturing that she’s going to steal or leech off someone else’s powers, but we don’t know that for sure.
Here, at least, I think she’s supposed to at least do something *in preparation* for what she’s going to do. She wasn’t able to tell Ron and Tyler more thanks to Lester arriving, so letting them in on it may be out of the question at this point.
Also, I doubt she’s going to do something to Tyler. Why? She already found him and Ron and even surprised them. She wouldn’t have revealed herself and apologized. Lester wasn’t around yet, so if she was going to do it to Tyler, she would have tried it already.
Considering the running gag in the comic I was half-expecting the computer to include a ‘Clay Industries’ advert there at the end although I can see why Tyler’s parents would have had someone else doing the tech for their headquarters. Then again I think the Clay Industries AI would have noticed the multiple instances rather than having to have it pointed out that someone was now appearing twice to the sensors.
Clay Industries AI is used to Zodon’s screwing around. Wonder what he’s already managed to puckup?
Anyone suspect that Sarah is going to meet up with P&G, or maybe their boss?
She is going to find the other Tyler that must know what she is talking about.
While at a party? Seems kind of odd, doesn’t it?
Also do you think the EDH HQ is anywhere near Wonderburg?
It’s probably smack in the middle of it. Remember, when everyone came back from Las Vegas (http://ps238.nodwick.com/comic/06292011/), all of the skyscrapers were in the middle of everything. I doubt that the EDH would be any different, and remember from the first page of the carnival, they were right in front of a tower.
As to the other question, a comment from the last page noted that Sarah probably came to do the job for her superpowers. I mean, what other purposes would she have there, other than being a former superhero? (I’m assuming that she is a kid, but because she was a shapeshifter, she could have been an adult.) I assume that Lester knows something about it, and wants to help her., but with something in return. (Probably from P&Gs boss.) I also note that he probably wants to help Tyler and Ron get in on the action, because he feels a little sorry for them, and because he thinks the job will be easier with both of them there to help.
Plus, the EDL tower is the one with the Guy with Ball smack-dab in the city. THey fly towards that one after Toby got ”accepted” into the family
Most likely she’s doing something related to her getting the superpower she wants.
Note: we actually don’t know WHAT she’s supposed to do. Why do people think she’s after Toby?
Because Toby has powers that can probably change reality enough for her to get powers. i wonder if Toby ever saw Sarah in one of Tyler’s destinies?
Well, it can’t be to *ask* him to use his powers to give her back hers. That’s not gonna work given the drawback Toby’s powers have that balance things out.
Whatever she’s doing, it’s the cost or price or currency to get an item G&P have, a specific, one-of-kind she wants. And unless she’s packing tech or magic or some other means, she’s not going to be able to do anything fantastic like stealing someone else’s powers. I doubt G&P have given her anything of the sort- she’s a customer, not a hired agent who’s getting a superpower as payment.
Well IF Sarah knew Toby had that kind of god-like power (which few outside of Tyler have any reason to know) she probably would ask him to restore her powers since he could do so the only question is what would the side-effects be (we know given her mania to get powers back that she likely wouldn’t care what the effects were unless they involved someone’s death or disfigurement but possibly even then). Given Toby’s spent time learning how to determine what the countering effect will be it would be possible to know ahead of time and decide if the counter is something that could be lived with, but it’s quite remote that the story would go in that direction.
Ok so the beeping noise was just the watch ringing.
And now I’ve just realized Zodon never expected to get through security with Tyler’s DNA, but is instead using it to trigger false alarms to cover up his real attempt.
That’s an interesting insight…
On a similar topic: has Wilcox just been implicitly granted access to Level Three? Would he normally have such access?
Since the person said “on Level Three”, that’s probably the third floor. And the whole place is probably a mixed bag of security zones.
A more likely solution would be that Zodon thought that the DNA would work, and when it didn’t, panicked and sent out multiple copies of Tyler to try to escape. I wonder what he wanted to do up there? My guess is that he wanted to take control of the EDL weapons and point them at a government base or the van Fogg’s zeppelin, whichever gave him more satisfaction or power.
Well multiple just means more than on, so one fake Tyler and one real one, there you go. The reason it didn’t come up before this was the computer wasn’t actively scanning dna signature outside of secure areas.
Does anyone know how to get in touch with Aaron? I’ve tried repeatedly over the last year to email him, using the email in the “Contact” link at the top of the page, about problems I’ve had with the Nodwick archive and with the RSS feed for PS238. I’ve never gotten a reply and the issues I mentioned have never been addressed. I don’t have a Twitter account and would prefer not to make one just to get in touch with one guy. Any other thoughts?
Don’t tell me; let me guess: Perchance does the Nodwick issue have to do with the image being so small it’s impossible to read the dialog balloons even while holding a magnifying glass up to the screen? Yeah, same here. Best of good luck to you.
Same here, didn’t even bother reading after finding that out with page one
Actually it was to do with the year and a half of comics that are missing. And the fact that the RSS feed for PS238 hasn’t worked for me in about a year.
Just so you know, the Nodwick archive comic images are actually readable — in Firefox, for example, if you right-click and choose “View Image”, they show up just fine.
It may be easier if you go to the Firefox menu and choose: View → Page Style → No Style. That also removes the image reduction being applied, and you can still use the “Prev/Next” navigation links. Just remember that the absence of styles will apply to the tab you did that on for any other page you visit, so they will probably look wrong.
Thank you! Very helpful; works fine.
(comment was supposed to be in this thread)
If you’re using Chrome, you can right-click on the image and choose “Open image in new tab”, which will also allow you to see the image at full (legible) scale.
If you’re not using a Firefox- or Chrome-based browser, I am not sure what can be done.
You can also use Zoom to increase the pages to readability, though that requires some scrolling to see the full one 😉
Just as long as the security system doesn’t now flag multiple-instance of Tyler as “Error, Ignore”
What about later when there are no instances on Tyler but one Moonshadow?
If Moonshadow does try to get past the security systems, his DNA will be flagged as being Tyler’s. But with multiple false readings around, that might lead to them being ignored…
I was thinking zero Tyler’s now and two earlier, can he how time travel?
If Tyler (imposter) is clearly upto no good then Tyler might be classed as an
enemyperson of interest to the earth defence league. I doubt if he will be allowed back.There’s nothing so fantastic as that. The computer was simply not actively monitoring anything but secure areas, when Zodon breached a secure area using Tyler’s hair to fake his DNA signature in place of Zodon’s own (he likes framing Tyler after all, like using one of Tyler’s marbles early on to hack the iris scanner on the old super-hero station in PS238’s ‘basement’) THEN the computer acted and sent out the alert. It wasn’t until a Chaperone told it ‘Uh I’ve got Tyler right here and we aren’t near level 3’ that it began scanning the non-secure areas and saw that another Tyler was showing up at which point after ensuring he hadn’t developed self-duplication did the pragmatic thing and simply asked for security to bring all instances of Tyler showing up to the same location and just to be on the safe side began a system diagnostic of its sensors in case they were defective.
If you’re using Chrome, you can right-click on the image and choose “Open image in new tab”, which will also allow you to see the image at full (legible) scale.
If you’re not using a Firefox- or Chrome-based browser, I am not sure what can be done.
Just how old is Sarah?
From the sound of it, she used to be a late-teen or college age hero.
She does not seem so, but then again this is a comic.
She may even have been an adult superhero. If we assume that her being shapechanged to a form without powers is correct, we can assume that her shapechange was complete enough that she’s also have the personality of the child or teenager form she has now.
It also means that she had some pretty strong and heavy shapechange powers previously.
The thing is though she says that she was mentally commanded to assume a form that had no powers, without further statement from her or someone else that he also included ‘turn yourself into a girl at the same time’ that what we see is her actual, natural age since she’d have no reason from an order to just render herself powerless to also adopt a physical form that was a different age. We also aren’t given any reason to think the villain that depowered her included any extra orders for her to adopt a different age so without reason to otherwise we have to consider that what we see is her normal, natural age and appearance (other than the noted hair color change).
While I don’t think this LIKELY, it is possible that “a form without her powers” could have translated to “a form too young to have yet developed them” at some point in the decision-making process (whether her subconscious one or not).
This could be part of another time hopping thing.
Which could explain why Sarah keeps thinking that Tyler knows what its about because ‘future’ Tyler does but ‘current’ Tyler does not.
It’s not a time travel thing, or at least if so it’d be problematic.
In-story, the loose ends from the Zodon time travel story have been wrapped up, plus Tom said Tyler was mostly done with time travel (12252009). It would have to be a time-travelling Tyler from far enough from the future not to contradict that but he’d be much older and thus Sarah wouldn’t confuse him with present-day Tyler.
From a writing perspective, it’d mean Aaron would be exploring time travel again. It’d be repetitive since time travel is just the domain of one or two characters in the story where PS238 is really about superheroes, supervillains, and superpowers in general.
Anyway…
Sarah just thinks that G&P are the only source of superpowers in town, so Ron’s story (05302014, 2016-04-22) to her must either be a lie or the voice in it was actually how G&P contacted him (although we know it was really Cecil). According to 2016-04-27, Dr. Newby didn’t believe Ron, so we can assume neither do the others, including Sarah. Since Tyler hangs around Ron a lot and has “his own” reason to want superpowers, she assumes Tyler too knows about G&P (in 2016-05-02, she warned Ron first).
She’s desperate. It’s not just about losing her superpowers but she seems to have lost her identity with them (2016-04-13). It doesn’t help that (2016-05-20):
a) the specific powers/item she wants are one-of-a-kind so someone else could take them before she does, and
b) G&P are secretive about it as well.
So now Sarah’s been given the price for getting the powers she wants, there’s a super-kids party she’s crashing because it’s somehow related to her getting her powers back, and she may as well involve Ron and Tyler because they’re there and in the know (even if they’re actually not). She’s calmed down enough to realize that even if they get powers, they won’t (necessarily) be getting what she wants.
Doesn’t Toby have the same biometrics as Tyler, already?
I get that Zodon’s probably the culprit here, but shouldn’t the system be expecting two Tylers at this point?
There’s probably some kind of powers sensor that helps separate Toby from Tyler. Or Toby’s powers keep generating ‘error-anomaly’ reports and the sensors check for that.
And Von Fogg and Angela stated that there had been ‘differences’ in the dna of the clone and original.
But as they deemed it ‘good enough’, they let it past. So Toby is not EXACTLY Tyler.
Among other things, one’s a lefty and the other a righty. Never can remember which is which though. I think Tyler’s the southpaw, but his primary tool is on his right hand.
Did anyone notice that the P&G question mirrors Reverent’s?
“How did you hear of us?”
I hope it ll be made clear soon.
Archive binging makes it doublely hard to wait for the once a week updates.
Has anyone ever noticed that in comics, even though the characters might be only 3 or 4 years older, they are double the height of the older one? I mean, if this were in scale, and Lester were our height, then Tyler and every other kid would be around 3 feet. This makes no sense. And if it were the other way, then the adults would be like 9 or 10 feet tall! I know that this sounds OCD, but I just think it is weird.
Kids – and even teens – tend to be unreasonably short in cartoons. It makes the age differences easier to depict. The interesting thing is that you can oft tell which age group of kids (little, prepubescent, or teen) a show is aimed at by the relative heights. The main character cast will generally be about 1/2 to 3/4 the height of “adult” characters. “Older kids” will be adult-height (especially if they’re “teens” compared to “little” or “pubescent” kids), while “younger kids” will be about half the main cast’s height.
So if a show is for 7-10-year-olds, teens might be adult height, because “teens are huge” to the main cast. But if it’s about middle-schoolers or young high schoolers, the main cast will be at least one head shorter than adults as a general rule.
(Rugrats is the most notable exception I can think of, but the target audience was significantly older than the baby-aged cast, so making the babies roughly correctly relative sized to the parents makes sense, there.)
I know this isn’t very likely, but what if one of the “Tyler’s” is actually Cecil sneaking into the party? I can totally see him swiping Tyler’s fingerprints, which would at least get him into the green areas of the tower.
Cecil takes the initiative without asking others, does what he wants, etc., but he’s not a jerk. His method involves a cloaking device and not identity theft- and how’d he pull of said theft anyway? Would he go so far as to ask Vance for the tech?
And he’s there to have fun. He likes to snoop but I think breaking that deep into top-secret areas (even if convinced it’d for Bureau of the Assessment of Metahumans purposes) is too far for him.
I think rather that there are only *two* multiple detections of Tyler: 1) Tyler himself, and 2) Zodon. You only need to be greater than one to be plural, funnily enough.
Why didn’t Tyler just say “Oh, that’s Zodon. He took some of my hair earlier for my DNA.” ??
Because he’s on the fatalistic side and doesn’t expect anyone to listen to him.
I just learned over Facebook that Aaron’s son hurt himself in an accident and is in hospital care now.
Chris W has a very good point: why doesn’t Tyler tell anyone about Zodon taking his hair?
Even after reading to the current end of the archive (July 2018), I suspect that the Powers’ neglect and emotional abuse of their son is now going to bite them on the ass, hard. Tyler knows Zodon likely won’t hurt anyone, and since the Tower is no longer his home and no one there cares about him, Tyler doesn’t care about them, either. Why should he warn anyone there about Zodon’s plans?