2015-09-25
Posted on 2015-09-26 by Aaron

52 thoughts on “2015-09-25”

  1. Izumi Ryu

    We do remember what happened the last time Moon Shadow was asked for advice, right?

    1. CalvinCopyright

      Hmm. I must say that it’s too late at night for me to go trawling through the archives. Remind me which time that was, again?

    2. CJT

      I also remember what happened the last time 84 and Moon Shadow sat next to each other in the jet. We may get to see if the Revenant has integrated “hug-armour” into Tyler’s costume yet.

    3. Adahn

      To be fair, Tyler is perhaps the worst person to ask for advice regard parental divorces:
      While Ron’s parents are divorced, they both still love him unconditionally. Tyler’s parents may be happily married, but they completely neglected Tyler because he has no powers. When Toby showed up, the Powers pretty much disowned Tyler and relegated him to a storage closet.

      Given the circumstances, I don’t think Tyler would be capable of giving any other advice than “be happy with what you have.”

      1. Wanderer

        I suspect a lot of that is due to Toby’s “tradeoff”. Remember, one Order for every Chaos, one Chaos for every Order, and Order is more useful in a fight (most of the time). At some point, it would be just his luck for their neurons containing their memories of him to have been randomized.

        1. Pneumonica

          Although I don’t entirely disagree with your statement, I do disagree with one subpoint – Order is a great thing to have in combat when you have the advantage. If you’re in a position of disadvantage, Chaos is far more to your benefit – you don’t want the situation to come out in its most likely result if you’re at the disadvantage. The statistically likely result cuts against you then.

        2. Miryafa

          That is certainly something you can do, if you’re thinking about it. But it seems like Toby’s powers are “order” when he knows what he wants to do, and then “chaos” is something he didn’t want (but not always something he wanted to not happen – just what he wasn’t thinking about). So it seems like “order” happens when you have a plan, and “chaos” otherwise. In other words, if you can think of a way out of your mess, order can get you there too.

          To answer the OP, last time someone asked Moon Shadow for advice, it was Ron, asking about what decision to make (super/normal), and the result was his parents got divorced, he thought it was his fault, he felt powerless and he went a little crazy, including almost taking Moon Shadow’s head off with a frisbee/plate.

  2. Mutant for Hire

    Actually, I’m remembering what happened last time Julie and Moon Shadow had a private conversation on the jet. He almost had his spine broken. I’m wondering if he’s remembering that too.

    1. Flushmaster

      Spine, ribs, arms, pretty much everything between his waist and shoulders. But, hey, maybe this time he’ll get a smooch.

      Also, Moon Shadow is a pretty good person to ask about dealing with unsolicited fame and adoration (albeit on a smaller scale than she’s dealing with), and I’m betting that’s what she’s going to ask about.

      1. Mouser

        When we see “grownup” Tyler, he’s gotten rid of the chin guard. Hard to get smooches with one of those…

        1. TBeholder

          Then again, Revenant in Issue 19 specifically mentioned keeping face guard if he’s intended to compliment impulsive superheroines.
          He’s right – collapsed lungs are a worse problem than cracked ribs.

        2. Adahn

          I believe the word The Revenant used is ‘complement’. Subtle difference, but definitely meaningful.

          Of course, it could just be a typo.

        3. Mike

          Definitely a typo. Revenant’s full statement was “I think you’d better keep that face guard on your uniform if you’re going to complement super-heroines like that.” Moon Shadow had just complimented a super-heroine, and showed no current signs of intending to complement one, so the “like that” wouldn’t fit the latter.

          It is kind of humorous that the Revenant’s statement makes sense either way, though. And “compliment” is an archaic and obsolete meaning of “complement”, so you get two fun phrases for the price of one.

    2. TBeholder

      Of course. That’s WHY he answers so cautiously. =)

    3. Tom Gwynn

      Which issue was that?

      1. Prairie Son

        Hmm. Teleporting bully arc, formation of first ad hoc superteam, pre alien invasion, actually pre Zodon time thing, I’d say issues 18 and 19 for the arc, so towards the end of 19 for Tyler counseling Julie.

        Man, I need to reread all this at sometime.

  3. Kolth

    Wow she’s really taking Baba Yaga’s to heart.

    Also she’s really freaking mature, it’s such a stark change to how she started. Grew up so fast.

    1. Mike

      Yep, she’s taken some big steps away from her original naivete (OK, been all but forcibly dragged away from it), but apparently without descending into cynicism or getting an inflated ego. She’s obviously trying to take what time she can to come to grips with what’s happening, which is wise.

      Even Forak appears to be taking his first faltering steps away from cluelessness and learning to think about where others are coming from. Lots of growth happening all around.

      1. Mike

        “…and is learning to think…”. Not stepping away from it…

        1. Mike

          Sigh – my keyboard insists on skipping letters, must have skipped the ‘/’ in ‘/I’. Corrected version of the original comment:

          Even Forak appears to be taking his first faltering steps away from cluelessness, and is learning to think about where others are coming from. Lots of growth happening all around.

        2. Dave III

          Forak’s not an /idiot/, he was a starship engineer after all. He’s just grown up in a society that treated him as someone to be tolerated, and only then because he was born with a privilege that most don’t share. Thinking about how others feel is novel territory for him, the plus side is he seems to like it. He might never be the Atlas that Ron’s dad was, but given enough time he’ll become an Atlas worthy of the mantle.

        3. Mike

          Never said he was an idiot, just clueless. I actually feel like I relate to him a little bit; his misadventures in dealing with others remind of me of my struggles dealing with Asperger’s (way back before it had a name). Looking at what I was like back then, “clueless” is a pretty good description.

        4. Dave III

          Didn’t intend to say you did, but I think we can agree it’s close to the concensus. He does have some pretty dippy moments, though.

        5. Mike

          True and true. The boy definitely could use some counseling. Of course, if the counseling went as well as when Toby asked Tyler for advice, Aaron would have the start of a plot for a whole new issue…

        6. Dave III

          Well, this issue feels like it’s wrapping up soon…

    2. Dave III

      Oh, she’ll be a kid again, soon. Character growth is vital but there’s no need for it to happen all at once. Cracking Moon Shadow’s ribs again with an ardent and sincere hug would be a good way to wrap this story up at this point. ^_^

      1. Faust

        Or a kiss resulting in a jet crash… Maybe not.

        1. Dave III

          I considered a kiss, too, when I typed that, but they’re a bit young. I’m not thinking in a “weird/perverted” sense, I mean I think they’re too young to consider a kiss to be a thing in this situation. Hugs, sure; shoulder punches, yeah; nose honks, no problem. But they got another two or three years before feelings involving kisses start to crop up.

          In Five years, I could see them being awkward toward each other.
          In Ten years, dating.
          In Twenty years, sincere hugs again. ^_^

        2. Faust

          If she gave a kiss on the cheek with no romantic intentions then he could easily get the wrong idea. It’s better than crushing him again with a hug.
          This can’t happen if she has felt anything like that for him ?

        3. Nobody

          That’s why he’s wearing the helmet. 😀

        4. Mechwarrior

          In six to eight years, all their friends will be intensely annoyed at how sickeningly sweet a couple they make.

        5. Dave III

          They’re probably become a one-name couple– JulieAndTyler. It will be notably weird to refer to one and not the other.

        6. Hyperstrike

          Nonono. 84Shadow

        7. AlmondMagnum

          The way his secret identity works, Tyler will pine after Julie who will pine after Moonshadow.

        8. Dave III

          Something tells me if/when Julie reaches that point, Moonshadow will come clean about being Tyler. She would keep his secret. Unless there’s a specific reason to keep it from her, he’d trust her with it. He’d probably do it NOW, if she asked the question.

        9. AlmondMagnum

          Tyler isn’t that worried about his secret identity. It’s just, I can see him trying to tell her, and failing. The universe conspiring to interrupt him, or even when he succeeds, Julie misunderstanding it as some kind of prank. Because aside from Cecil, who among Tyler’s age mates would believe it?

        10. Dave III

          The fact that you specified “age-mates” kills the argument I was about to offer, being that certain members of the PS238 staff know Tyler’s identity, including Principal Cranston and Miss Kyle. The doctor CERTAINLY knows, she was holding his clothes when he went into the biohazard isolation tank and assuring him about doctor/patient confidentiality.

          Plus, you’re right, the universe WILL conspire against him telling Julie, for the primary reason that the universe will think it’s funny.

      2. Moe Lane

        There will be no rib-cracking. The Revenant made sure that Tyler’s new uniform has rather specific bracing in the chest that would prevent future damage to his protege in that regard.

        …BECAUSE HE’S THE GOSH-DARN REVENANT, THAT’S WHY.

        1. Dave III

          True– but if The Revenant does all Tyler’s thinking for him, how’s he going to learn?

          I think this will be a point when Rule of Cool is at odds with Rule of Funny.

        2. Opus the Poet

          Or reconcile them both, the suit allows enough of a squeeze to hurt but not enough to BE hurt, or in more technical terms, pain but no injury.

        3. AlmondMagnum

          Tyler may not need the Revenant to do his thinking for him on that one. He may have figured out the need for better body armor on his own.

        4. Prairie Son

          He did figure out he wanted the fireproof stuff, even if it was itchy.

  4. Pneumonica

    “How do you ‘un-crazy’ your life? I mean, people don’t just live with this kind of stuff non-stop, do they?”

    1. KillerFish

      “Life is like trying to water-ski. The only way to stand is to keep your balance and keep moving forward, because if you let go, or stop moving, you’re going to end up submerged.”

    2. Nightmask

      Thankfully it’s not non-stop it just seems that way to us because we’re mostly being shown the highlight moments (unless you’re talking Marvel or DC, THEN it really is non-stop and you wonder why anyone remains a hero after all the horror heaped upon them, it makes surviving the beaches of Normandy or the Death Camps look like a nice picnic day in comparison) along with some down moments to help with characterization and show that they do indeed live normal lives in general.

      1. Zer-Author

        Well, I imagine that a lot of them keep going because, for them, it is literally do or die. True, mutants embody this more than others, but a lot of supers end up in situations where sitting back will literally results in the deaths of them, and everyone they love. Throw in the guilt of *letting* people die (because failing to act would be doing exactly that, unfair though it may sound), and many supers probably couldn’t consider doing anything different. It’s the price of getting super powers *and* a conscience.

        1. Pneumonica

          Yeah, an unfortunate fact. Maybe her second question: “How many friends can I get who are immune to getting killed?”

        2. Brainstorm

          Well, I mean… Apparently, 83.

        3. Foradain

          84, by Brainstorm’s logic. I don’t think Forak has a number (if he does, it would be after 84), but he is a F.I.S.S.

          But there may be a few others; among their classmates…

        4. Nobody

          he’s not immune to being killed though. He’s not even all that tough (by FISS standards).

  5. Robbie Bourget

    There are bound to be other F.I.S.S characters but, to me, the best part is the way all of this flows and hangs together. So, so excellet.

  6. Christopher

    Hey Moonshadow, how do you deal with getting moonshadowed into a Role?

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