Yeah — wrong or not at least it is a half-decent rational for founding his academy.
The ‘Oh No -the president has telepathic powers’ just made no logical sense as a rational for turning himself into a cyborg principle.
The Argosians had one set of powers only: FISS. And it was added in through genetic engineering long ago, to make the royals more distinct from commoners.
They cannot produce superior offsprings because there is nothing to possitively affect it in thier DNA. At best they can “thin” thier bloodlines with intermarriage or recreate a pureblood.
Humanity on the other hand developed superhuman powers on thier own and it is much “wilder” then what the Argosians have. Not one set of powers, dozens of sets of powers. That can mix and produce very powerfull cobinations or even totally new sets.
Or cancel each other out (in the case of tyler).
In the case of Tyler i have to wonder whether his parents powers are even capable of being passed down genetically. If their powers came from some science accident rather than their genetics, then expecting their offspring to carry them is like expecting a mated pair of amputees to produce legless babies.
The Argosians had more non-FISS meta in the past. But as Drax let let few times they genetically cleansed ‘wild strains’. and Both Drax and Atlas-lad mentioned they were especially careful to get ride of the meta-intelligences. So the only META they have left are the FISS nobels
Besides what everyone else has said about Argos’s past non-FISS meta’s, killing off humanity is something a strong enough FISS could do. Just fly around the planet and punch everyone in half until there are no more humans, simple as that.
Is he really not that true? What about all the alternative Tylers and how thier world compared to this one?
Every superpowered tyler is “a force that ended humanity”, from a certain point of view (some more directly, some simply by not being normal).
But I think he is only looking at part of the problem: Creating of new supers via reproduction. What about his origin? He was indirecty created because of a super (President Cranston).
So it could very well be him that is “the superhuman that destroys humanity”.
He’s being a bit pessimistic! One day, a metahuman could arise that could solve all our problems!
Still, he does have a point. Will his solution involve killing all metahumans, or taking over the world, or some other evil scheme?
I never said I /agreed/ with him, but do note that the MO of P Academy is anonymity and lack of flash – seems like he’s deliberately trying to subvert the typical flashy displays. If that’s all he was doing, it wouldn’t be that bad, but I suspect it goes further than that.
The MO of P.A. also seems to involve mental manipulation, kidnapping, and borderline psychological child abuse thinly disguised as ‘discipline’.
You call it anonymity, I call it denying children the right to a name until and unless they please their ‘teachers’. The academy has more in common with a prison than a school.
Actually, that makes sense seeing as how the academy’s children wear uniforms of school design rather than their own design. There is also less instance of “super names” All in all he’s creating super powered citizens instead of superheros and supervillains.
If it was just a school uniform you might be correct. But the cowls tell a different story. he’s Dehumanize them. he not making citizens, he at best making second-class citizens if not out right slaves.
I don’t know. Given his whole emphasis on self-discipline and such, it seems more like he’s trying to institutionalize them to the point that he can keep them all behaving within a rigid set of guidelines (possibly including who they are allowed to have kids with) instead of letting them all fly about and fight one-another just for the sake of screwing around (no pun intended).
Yeah, that typo had me boggled, as I was looking for the meaning of the zodiac word within that context. It totally broke my understanding and I wondered what superhuman jargon I missed.
Considering at least one junior hero in PS238 has the power to destroy the whole planet via cause and effect, I think that ship has pretty well sailed. XD
The Revenant already made the case for superpowers several arcs ago so I wont bother on that note.
He may thinks that the world will be run by Mega humans and regular humans (himself) will become slaves, and that is why he went to steal the prototype school. When he merged with the school, he became a mega human, but He is still a politician, and that breed thinks their ideology is 100 percent correct and must be followed (Most people’s Ideas have at least some merit and should be thought over) . So I see him doing what he Feared, having a mega human ruling over regular humans.
Except for the part that his strategy won’t work because for it to have even a chance of working he’d have to control all metahumans, and the vast majority will likely vehemently object to being controlled.
And even if it did somehow work, all it’d accomplish would be that the world-ending Metahuman will be born to a Praetorian breeding pair. Which I’m sure he thinks would be just fine, but everyone else in the world won’t like that kind of implicit threat held over their heads.
This kind of thinking always follows a relentless line of logic that invariably ends up in the same conclusion: “So I will need to rule the world. For its own good, of course. And for freedom.”
There’s a word for superpowered people who think like that.
Of important note, he not (at this point) taking sides between good and evil. This reminds me of Dr. No’s speech to James Bond “East. West. Mr. Bond, these are merely points on a compass.”
Like all of Lawful alignment, he seeks to control for the greater good that he imagines.
The tricky bit is the “means to an end” justification. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
The really scary part, is what he is attempting to achieve may be the right thing to do.
Any individual who is concerned with the speculative end result of superhuman natural selection should *not* appoint themselves to a position put it under control.
When Marvel set up its New Universal line that was what the government thought too, so its agents in the 50s murdered the first wave of supers that showed up (one being Tony Stark) terrified at the thought of them reproducing together and spawning a new race when having zero reason for thinking that. They started making such plans against the current wave that started showing up as well.
Looking back on this there’s already a metahuman who could destroy humanity already around (not counting the super-geniuses and the potentially Earth-destroying things they create), Tyler’s clone Toby. During the one story arc for class he even reveals how he nearly destroyed the earth trying to give Tyler powers until he undid it.
Also one of the flaws in his logic is that people often fall in love with and marry people who work in the same field as them because they most often encounter and associate with people with those common interests. So it’s not surprising two supers would hook up when they regularly run across one another or work together.
Sad thing is, his theory’s actually pretty good. Not necessarily true, but pretty good.
Yeah — wrong or not at least it is a half-decent rational for founding his academy.
The ‘Oh No -the president has telepathic powers’ just made no logical sense as a rational for turning himself into a cyborg principle.
Although, being a cyborg principle is cool.
Touche!
yea except genetics dosen’t work like that even in PS238 if it did the Agosians would have long ago destroyed themselves
The Argosians had one set of powers only: FISS. And it was added in through genetic engineering long ago, to make the royals more distinct from commoners.
They cannot produce superior offsprings because there is nothing to possitively affect it in thier DNA. At best they can “thin” thier bloodlines with intermarriage or recreate a pureblood.
Humanity on the other hand developed superhuman powers on thier own and it is much “wilder” then what the Argosians have. Not one set of powers, dozens of sets of powers. That can mix and produce very powerfull cobinations or even totally new sets.
Or cancel each other out (in the case of tyler).
In the case of Tyler i have to wonder whether his parents powers are even capable of being passed down genetically. If their powers came from some science accident rather than their genetics, then expecting their offspring to carry them is like expecting a mated pair of amputees to produce legless babies.
The Argosians had more non-FISS meta in the past. But as Drax let let few times they genetically cleansed ‘wild strains’. and Both Drax and Atlas-lad mentioned they were especially careful to get ride of the meta-intelligences. So the only META they have left are the FISS nobels
Besides what everyone else has said about Argos’s past non-FISS meta’s, killing off humanity is something a strong enough FISS could do. Just fly around the planet and punch everyone in half until there are no more humans, simple as that.
Is he really not that true? What about all the alternative Tylers and how thier world compared to this one?
Every superpowered tyler is “a force that ended humanity”, from a certain point of view (some more directly, some simply by not being normal).
But I think he is only looking at part of the problem: Creating of new supers via reproduction. What about his origin? He was indirecty created because of a super (President Cranston).
So it could very well be him that is “the superhuman that destroys humanity”.
He’s being a bit pessimistic! One day, a metahuman could arise that could solve all our problems!
Still, he does have a point. Will his solution involve killing all metahumans, or taking over the world, or some other evil scheme?
I believe it involves muting the displays of metahumans to circumvent the ‘mating behavior’.
Forced pairing of all humans and metas to slow or stop the power curve.
Eugenics never works out as planned. Sounds to me like the typical battle hymn of the oppressor.
I never said I /agreed/ with him, but do note that the MO of P Academy is anonymity and lack of flash – seems like he’s deliberately trying to subvert the typical flashy displays. If that’s all he was doing, it wouldn’t be that bad, but I suspect it goes further than that.
The MO of P.A. also seems to involve mental manipulation, kidnapping, and borderline psychological child abuse thinly disguised as ‘discipline’.
You call it anonymity, I call it denying children the right to a name until and unless they please their ‘teachers’. The academy has more in common with a prison than a school.
Actually, that makes sense seeing as how the academy’s children wear uniforms of school design rather than their own design. There is also less instance of “super names” All in all he’s creating super powered citizens instead of superheros and supervillains.
If it was just a school uniform you might be correct. But the cowls tell a different story. he’s Dehumanize them. he not making citizens, he at best making second-class citizens if not out right slaves.
It may simply involve checking each meta kid for potential power level at an age where the kid is… well.
He is a super villain. When have you ever known a super villain to be optimistic?
And here I thought his plan was to create more powerful metahumans, not weaker ones.
I don’t know. Given his whole emphasis on self-discipline and such, it seems more like he’s trying to institutionalize them to the point that he can keep them all behaving within a rigid set of guidelines (possibly including who they are allowed to have kids with) instead of letting them all fly about and fight one-another just for the sake of screwing around (no pun intended).
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Typo error:-
“arise” not “aries”.
Yeah, I also think summoning the god of war is a potentially disastrous activity.
Arise Aries! Go forth & conquer?
Ares is the god of war. Aries is the zodiac sign of the ram — the male sheep, that is, not a battering ram.
Yeah, that typo had me boggled, as I was looking for the meaning of the zodiac word within that context. It totally broke my understanding and I wondered what superhuman jargon I missed.
Typo: re-enforced. Should be reinforced.
Considering at least one junior hero in PS238 has the power to destroy the whole planet via cause and effect, I think that ship has pretty well sailed. XD
The Revenant already made the case for superpowers several arcs ago so I wont bother on that note.
The bit about the bright costumes and big ham being a mating display made me smile. ^^
The thought of the Headmaster taking a hand to influence the development of meta-human evolution did NOT. -_-
Superheroes now make sense! It’s all just to pick up hot chicks/guys!
Stuff like this is why I love PS238.
He may thinks that the world will be run by Mega humans and regular humans (himself) will become slaves, and that is why he went to steal the prototype school. When he merged with the school, he became a mega human, but He is still a politician, and that breed thinks their ideology is 100 percent correct and must be followed (Most people’s Ideas have at least some merit and should be thought over) . So I see him doing what he Feared, having a mega human ruling over regular humans.
You know, if this guy saw the Alternate Tylers, he may well feel even more justified. Consider TelepathTyler and Ultimate Powers.
Heck, consider Tyler’s “twin.”
If he didn’t care about the consequences, he could use his powers willy-nilly and allow the backlash to just accelerate his destruction of mankind.
Except for the part that his strategy won’t work because for it to have even a chance of working he’d have to control all metahumans, and the vast majority will likely vehemently object to being controlled.
And even if it did somehow work, all it’d accomplish would be that the world-ending Metahuman will be born to a Praetorian breeding pair. Which I’m sure he thinks would be just fine, but everyone else in the world won’t like that kind of implicit threat held over their heads.
This kind of thinking always follows a relentless line of logic that invariably ends up in the same conclusion: “So I will need to rule the world. For its own good, of course. And for freedom.”
There’s a word for superpowered people who think like that.
He isn’t finished explaining.
Whether that’s a good point or a bad point remains to be seen.
Of important note, he not (at this point) taking sides between good and evil. This reminds me of Dr. No’s speech to James Bond “East. West. Mr. Bond, these are merely points on a compass.”
Like all of Lawful alignment, he seeks to control for the greater good that he imagines.
The tricky bit is the “means to an end” justification. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
The really scary part, is what he is attempting to achieve may be the right thing to do.
Any individual who is concerned with the speculative end result of superhuman natural selection should *not* appoint themselves to a position put it under control.
That way lies madness.
Soooo, all those superheroes in the comics are basically peacocking…? Kind of makes me feel sorry for Spawn then.
When Marvel set up its New Universal line that was what the government thought too, so its agents in the 50s murdered the first wave of supers that showed up (one being Tony Stark) terrified at the thought of them reproducing together and spawning a new race when having zero reason for thinking that. They started making such plans against the current wave that started showing up as well.
Looking back on this there’s already a metahuman who could destroy humanity already around (not counting the super-geniuses and the potentially Earth-destroying things they create), Tyler’s clone Toby. During the one story arc for class he even reveals how he nearly destroyed the earth trying to give Tyler powers until he undid it.
Also one of the flaws in his logic is that people often fall in love with and marry people who work in the same field as them because they most often encounter and associate with people with those common interests. So it’s not surprising two supers would hook up when they regularly run across one another or work together.