Giving things to Tyler really is the best way to get them to Moonshadow afterall. I’m surprised all the teachers are in on the whole Moonshadow thing so much that they admit he’s in their classes.
Honestly, I think most of the teachers have reached the point of ‘Just figure it out already, okay?’
Interesting thought. We know the staff knows, and the Positrons apparently put it on their internal network (since Diana knows), but apparently Praetorian Positron doesn’t know it. Future plot point? But other than the staff, I think the only ones who know Tyler’s alter ego are Cecil, the Revenant and Lyle (because Lyle knows everything). As secret identities go, that’s pretty tight.
No, it’s probably more along the lines of they know no one will figure it out, so they’re just playing games with folks. They know no one will figure it out because of how the minds of supers work. “Moonshadow has somehow done more super heroing than we have and helped stop an alien invasion. He must have the most awesome powers ever.”
It is against everything in their being to even conceive that someone with no powers could be a super hero. Even his parents are beginning to question whether he’s their son or not since they now have a son with powers, so who’s this strange powerless child belong to?
Or they could figure that one of their class mates hasn’t made public a power set or an alias and moonshadow hasn’t revealed his identity but is in their class. Normal boy is faking and is really an uber super.
I hope we get to see the Power’s story developed more. I don’t like it as a “running gag” because there’s nothing funny about it. I don’t understand why none of the adults in the room (when the Powers were told their family now had twins) seem to have picked up on or reacted to Tyler’s conviction that his parents would now abandon him.
Or the fact that he seems to have been RIGHT.
It’s time for the Meta Family Services folks to be seen again. Everyone needs to do some serious talking.
Where’s the fun in having a super-team if your adversaries aren’t super?
Does anyone here know if it’s okay to nominate PS238 for a Hugo? Normally I’d expect to wait for a story to finish and nominate the resulting Volume 10, and that’s how I’ve seen other web-published comics nominated (e.g. Schlock Mercenary), but that could take a while (this volume started in 2014). If I thought Volume 10 would complete in 2016, I’d just wait until next year, but maybe this should now be considered an ongoing web publication, and nominate it as a site?
Based on this FAQ entry, electronic publication is publication. The same FAQ explicitly mentions that “a webcomic is a graphic story just as much as is a comic book or graphic novel”, but the WSFS constitution part 3.2.4 says “Works appearing in a series are eligible as individual works, but the series as a whole is not eligible. However, a work appearing in a number of parts shall be eligible for the year of the final part.”
So it’s possible Schlock Mercenary was disqualified (1) incorrectly, or (2) using rules no longer in force, or (3) because the daily strip is considered a sequence of “parts”, the bundled strips are the completed work, and no bundle was completed that year (or (4) for some reason my superficial google search didn’t reveal).
Possibility (3) may or may not apply to PS238, even assuming it’s true. Last I heard, plans for gathering pages into discrete publications were not well defined.
THAT, is a far more interesting question than you might know. But in MY opinion, after last year’s debacle, it’s firmly established that online publication counts as date of first publication.
If precedents are being established in the form of debacles, I may be overthinking this. Perhaps “nominate, and let the Hugo Administrators sort it out” is the correct approach. In the unlikely event the work gets nominated in the wrong way, Aaron Williams is welcome to turn it down….
:-/ I’m a little sad for Tyler. We know Julie likes him well enough to donate her superblood for his wellbeing, but he’d probably appreciate being accepted into someone’s team as himself, rather than his alter ego…
And as himself, Tyler (not even as Moonshadow) is probably the most important person to ever exist among superheroes. It’s because of him that Superhumans will continue to even exist. He’s basically the nexus point of all superhuman reality 🙂 The chosen one 🙂
What if being the outsider is his power? The only universe I can think of where he wasn’t was the one where the aliens invaded and he was holding the escape craft together. The one where he has powers he’s basically a villain, the Community (or whatever they called themselves) one he’s the only person who can’t communicate with them, and here he’s the only normal in a school of superheroes.
It doesn’t sound as if that’s a superpower, but more of a multiversal constant. Normals can and often are outsiders, or at least consider themselves to be. I don’t know why people keep wanting Tyler to have a secret power. I like his perspective as the only normal in a school for metas. I also think he has the Batman-like cool factor in that he takes on superhero level threats with no real powers of his own other than tech, intelligence, and fighting skill.
Actually, the teachers at PS 238 should have put a stop to the kids hounding Zodon long before this. While the head master of Praetorian Academy might tolerate and even secretly condone students harassing their classmates, he wouldn’t put up with such an open display of bullying.
Actually, I kind of think Zodon hasn’t complained because he doesn’t really mind. He doesn’t really appeal to his fellow students, so this is the ONLY kind of interaction he is likely to get – and in the “Any attention is better than NO attention” style of most kids everywhere, he’d rather have this than nothing. Also, it lets him practice his supervillain game – trying out repartees, exercising his snark, that sort of thing. If they ignored him, I think he’d be insulted – it would mean they did not see him as a threat.
This is actually a good point. Remember that Zodon is only 5 or so, compared to the others’ 8-10 years’ of age. (His super-genius makes him unusually precocious.) He’s a little kid even by their standards, so being accepted even as an enemy is probably better than being dismissed.
Considering all their classes which have to include lessons in super-heroing you’d think they’d realize it’s a BAD idea to dismiss Tyler as a threat, he does do well in his shop class after all and is getting the same education on how to deal with them as they are. But given his subtle power of confusion that keeps them from realizing he’s Moonshadow it probably helps keep them from taking him seriously, that and they’re likely getting the same kind of ‘normals are insignificant’ bad lessons from their parents and giving them to each other since we know that many adult heroes seem to be dismissive of normals (with Tyler’s parents leading the group).
I think that IS the same mistery Tyler is talking about. Pretty sure he meaning “Seriously how is that none of you guys has figured it out already, Cecil did it, it’s not so hard, came on”
Tylers “obscured” secret identity is after all a very large lampshade on the golden age/silver age Clark Kent/Superman disguise. Though given that Cecil is the only one who has seen through the disguise, it does make you wonder.
Cecil is a meta that can identify other metas, he just thought that they were aliens at first. Tyler and Cecil have talked about how maybe Tyler does have powers, maybe they just are masked so Cecil can’t detect it.
From what I remember about Cecil’s ‘power’, he can sense the potential for powers. he’s said to Ron, he’s also gone and said that Tyler was the only ‘normal’ person he’s seen at the school. So yeah, I don’t think that Tyler will ever get powers. Naturally that is, he doesn’t have the potential for that, according to Cecil… I think.
I wouldn’t call that discussion “talking about how maybe Tyler does have powers”, I just saw it as Cecil teasing Tyler about the latter’s bewilderment that no one else could see through his shouldn’t-be-this-secret identity. At no point did Cecil appear to be serious in what he was saying.
If all the teachers have Moon Shadow in their classes, why would Ms. Kyle, a teacher, tell her to give the membership form to Tyler instead of giving it to him herself?
It’s rather sad to see Tyler so crestfallen in the last panel.
She did well in the egg because she lacked a lot of preconceptions. It’s where the “wise child” and “wise fool” archetypes tend to come from: “Out of the mouths of babes.” So a lot of what she did was apply the lessons a child learns from her parents in being polite and kind and good, and look at things without preconceptions. The only real brilliance on her part was the connection of “eye” to “needle.” The rest was – not to denigrate it – a lack of bias grown from years of experience.
Here, she has a bias and preconception: Tyler is her non-meta friend whom she respects but who definitely is only to be worried about when it comes to the dangers of super-everything, because he literally can’t take care of himself. Moonshadow is a super-duper powerful, ultra-mysterious figure who has new powers as the gossip demands. That they might be the same person literally does not cross her mind, any more than some of the things Julie saw right through crossed the minds of the grown-ups in the egg.
In the egg, she saw almost only what was there, while the adults saw contexts that didn’t apply and got in the way of clear vision. Here, she has context that blinds her to the possibly painfully obvious connection.
Cecil, meanwhile…is a conspiracy nut. His friend who knows all about supers but lacks powers disappears right before another kid with no powers but lots of cool gear shows up, demonstrating connections? He saw what his conspiracy-laden brain begged him to. It just happened to be the truth, here.
Seconded. I also still want a copy of the poster from Issue 36, where the Powers were informed that they now had twins:
Creativity If plan “A” will result in a smoking crater where the city used to be, the Chamber of Commerce would probably like it if you came up with a plan “B”.
The poster in the background in the last two panels is rather telling.
“Orbital Headquarters”
“Best when used to protect the people of Earth, not to avoid living among them.”
To quote Alpha Centauri: “The managers always talked about having the view from 30,000 feet. The only problem with having the view from 30,000 feet, is that at that height, everyone looks like ants.”
The main purpose of an orbital facility is to allow one to see the big picture (observe a large area); however, if one is too fixated on the big picture, one tends to devaluate (or even dehumanize) its composition.
Either that, or when Tyler pulls off his face mask to try and reveal himself, Julie will assume Moon Shadow used his “ultra-darkness powers” to physically swap places with Tyler so he could make his getaway unnoticed. Never underestimate the power people have to avoid seeing what they’re not ready to believe.
Like I said, “when she realizes.” Not “when it should have been revealed but she still justifies it away.” The more she has to come up with really weird excuses to deny it, the dumber she’s going to feel, though.
I suspect nobody is going to be able to realize it before they actually become real friends – not classmates who are friendly with – Tyler as Tyler. Julie, for all that she’s nice, is mostly just a classmate who is friendly with him. She’s only bonded with Moonshadow.
I was reading “finds out” in an external way (not internal realization), which would have still left room for denial. But I think you’re right – it’s probably going to take an actual friendship with Tyler before any of the other kids can figure it out.
I bet every one of the kids is trying to figure out which one of them is secretly Moon Shadow in (another) disguise. And that Tyler isn’t on anybody’s suspect list. And if anyone points out that they’ve all been seen with Moon Shadow at one point or another, they’ll just assume that his ever-growing list of alleged superpowers includes some kind of illusion or duplication power to make people THINK that he was standing next to his alter ego (This could also explain people suspecting classmates who do not match Tyler’s height, build and/or gender, and thus are obviously not Moon Shadow).
Or they will just start keeping a good watch on any shadows etc in the classrooms. Did anyone say moonshadow was actually an enrolled pupil? Or is he just skulking/shadowwalking about?
Considering that his own parents are having a hard time remembering he exists and that Cecil can’t detect any power from him, this a pretty strong super-power of his.
I don’t know – sure, being forgotten by your own parents would be depressing and hurt horribly, but given the type of parents Ultima and Sovereign are, being forgotten might be less harmful than being remembered…
It’s never that simple with feelings, though, is it?
Even back when Tyler first arrived at PS238 and lived in fear of his life, he told himself that his parents might be deluded, but they still loved him. And now they’ve gone and raised the bar on bad parenting. :-/
No, it isn’t. Even if you can intellectually understand it’s for the better, the heart rebels and doesn’t want to accept it. And even after heart acceptance, the pain can linger. Glad my personal experience with that wasn’t with my parents.
I would never stop laughing if in a later comic all those super teams got mind controlled and Tyler beat all of them using the relatively tame gadgets of the revenant to save them and the world.
Sarcastic lampshading. That’s why I love Tyler.
There isn’t another ‘normal’ in this comic, right? Just Rev hiding in plain sight?
Normal Adj. the averaging of all abnormals in the vacinity
Technically, Cecil is. Mostly. And Ms. Oberon, the teacher for the Rainmaker kids.
Cecil is a meta, it’s just that his only power is detection of other metas.
Giving things to Tyler really is the best way to get them to Moonshadow afterall. I’m surprised all the teachers are in on the whole Moonshadow thing so much that they admit he’s in their classes.
Honestly, I think most of the teachers have reached the point of ‘Just figure it out already, okay?’
Interesting thought. We know the staff knows, and the Positrons apparently put it on their internal network (since Diana knows), but apparently Praetorian Positron doesn’t know it. Future plot point? But other than the staff, I think the only ones who know Tyler’s alter ego are Cecil, the Revenant and Lyle (because Lyle knows everything). As secret identities go, that’s pretty tight.
No, it’s probably more along the lines of they know no one will figure it out, so they’re just playing games with folks. They know no one will figure it out because of how the minds of supers work. “Moonshadow has somehow done more super heroing than we have and helped stop an alien invasion. He must have the most awesome powers ever.”
It is against everything in their being to even conceive that someone with no powers could be a super hero. Even his parents are beginning to question whether he’s their son or not since they now have a son with powers, so who’s this strange powerless child belong to?
Or they could figure that one of their class mates hasn’t made public a power set or an alias and moonshadow hasn’t revealed his identity but is in their class. Normal boy is faking and is really an uber super.
Tyler has an official super-identity: http://ps238.nodwick.com/comic/04252007/
Not sure about an official hero-name…
I hope we get to see the Power’s story developed more. I don’t like it as a “running gag” because there’s nothing funny about it. I don’t understand why none of the adults in the room (when the Powers were told their family now had twins) seem to have picked up on or reacted to Tyler’s conviction that his parents would now abandon him.
Or the fact that he seems to have been RIGHT.
It’s time for the Meta Family Services folks to be seen again. Everyone needs to do some serious talking.
Or it could be Tyler does have a power. Sort of like bink in the zanth novels.
The Teachers should have known or do know. http://ps238.nodwick.com/comic/05182007/
Where’s the fun in having a super-team if your adversaries aren’t super?
Does anyone here know if it’s okay to nominate PS238 for a Hugo? Normally I’d expect to wait for a story to finish and nominate the resulting Volume 10, and that’s how I’ve seen other web-published comics nominated (e.g. Schlock Mercenary), but that could take a while (this volume started in 2014). If I thought Volume 10 would complete in 2016, I’d just wait until next year, but maybe this should now be considered an ongoing web publication, and nominate it as a site?
It needs to have something printed. (Schlock Mercenary was dqed because it didn’t have anything printed that year.)
Based on this FAQ entry, electronic publication is publication. The same FAQ explicitly mentions that “a webcomic is a graphic story just as much as is a comic book or graphic novel”, but the WSFS constitution part 3.2.4 says “Works appearing in a series are eligible as individual works, but the series as a whole is not eligible. However, a work appearing in a number of parts shall be eligible for the year of the final part.”
So it’s possible Schlock Mercenary was disqualified (1) incorrectly, or (2) using rules no longer in force, or (3) because the daily strip is considered a sequence of “parts”, the bundled strips are the completed work, and no bundle was completed that year (or (4) for some reason my superficial google search didn’t reveal).
Possibility (3) may or may not apply to PS238, even assuming it’s true. Last I heard, plans for gathering pages into discrete publications were not well defined.
THAT, is a far more interesting question than you might know. But in MY opinion, after last year’s debacle, it’s firmly established that online publication counts as date of first publication.
If precedents are being established in the form of debacles, I may be overthinking this. Perhaps “nominate, and let the Hugo Administrators sort it out” is the correct approach. In the unlikely event the work gets nominated in the wrong way, Aaron Williams is welcome to turn it down….
Asiral Jole and the Red Queen has been qualified with an epub last year… I should be further updates as some of best comics are online only.
Tyler goes from excited to a bit disappointed by in two panels. Poor kid.
And I’m pretty sure, PF, that no one would complain if you nominated it for an award?
For a second I thought 84 was giving Tyler membership so he wouldn’t feel left out.
Tyler seems to think that too, or at least was sure she meant him specifically.
You almost made it, Zodon… but not quite.
:-/ I’m a little sad for Tyler. We know Julie likes him well enough to donate her superblood for his wellbeing, but he’d probably appreciate being accepted into someone’s team as himself, rather than his alter ego…
And as himself, Tyler (not even as Moonshadow) is probably the most important person to ever exist among superheroes. It’s because of him that Superhumans will continue to even exist. He’s basically the nexus point of all superhuman reality 🙂 The chosen one 🙂
More like the choosing one. :p
Well the time travel kid pick him to make the choice so Tyler is the chosen one just not chosen by fate/destiny.
What if being the outsider is his power? The only universe I can think of where he wasn’t was the one where the aliens invaded and he was holding the escape craft together. The one where he has powers he’s basically a villain, the Community (or whatever they called themselves) one he’s the only person who can’t communicate with them, and here he’s the only normal in a school of superheroes.
It doesn’t sound as if that’s a superpower, but more of a multiversal constant. Normals can and often are outsiders, or at least consider themselves to be. I don’t know why people keep wanting Tyler to have a secret power. I like his perspective as the only normal in a school for metas. I also think he has the Batman-like cool factor in that he takes on superhero level threats with no real powers of his own other than tech, intelligence, and fighting skill.
The only possible power Tyler has is plot armor and that is more of a meta equipment granted by god aka the author than it is a super power.
Yep, those and a boatload of luck, although lately he’s acquired enough skill and savvy to create his own “luck” instead of needing it to just happen.
I agree, Tyler/Moonshadow would lose a lot of appeal and “coolness” if suddenly it comes out “oh, he really does have a power!”
I’m a little sad for Zydon, he’s not actually scheming anything but noooooooo, they just gotta be like that.
Actually, the teachers at PS 238 should have put a stop to the kids hounding Zodon long before this. While the head master of Praetorian Academy might tolerate and even secretly condone students harassing their classmates, he wouldn’t put up with such an open display of bullying.
Maybe Zodon hasn’t actually complained to the teachers because he fears it’d make him look weak.
Or else they’ve been too busy with the other disasters that keep cropping up to get around to him.
Actually, I kind of think Zodon hasn’t complained because he doesn’t really mind. He doesn’t really appeal to his fellow students, so this is the ONLY kind of interaction he is likely to get – and in the “Any attention is better than NO attention” style of most kids everywhere, he’d rather have this than nothing. Also, it lets him practice his supervillain game – trying out repartees, exercising his snark, that sort of thing. If they ignored him, I think he’d be insulted – it would mean they did not see him as a threat.
Just my 2 pfennigs worth… 🙂
This is actually a good point. Remember that Zodon is only 5 or so, compared to the others’ 8-10 years’ of age. (His super-genius makes him unusually precocious.) He’s a little kid even by their standards, so being accepted even as an enemy is probably better than being dismissed.
Actually Zodon is about the same age as the rest, remember in issue 47 you see zodon’s counterpart who by the way is not only 5 years old.
Considering all their classes which have to include lessons in super-heroing you’d think they’d realize it’s a BAD idea to dismiss Tyler as a threat, he does do well in his shop class after all and is getting the same education on how to deal with them as they are. But given his subtle power of confusion that keeps them from realizing he’s Moonshadow it probably helps keep them from taking him seriously, that and they’re likely getting the same kind of ‘normals are insignificant’ bad lessons from their parents and giving them to each other since we know that many adult heroes seem to be dismissive of normals (with Tyler’s parents leading the group).
The other big mystery being how Julie doesn’t realize that Moonshadow was standing right in front of her as she handed Tyler the sheet.
Tyler’s power is super-secret identity.
I think that IS the same mistery Tyler is talking about. Pretty sure he meaning “Seriously how is that none of you guys has figured it out already, Cecil did it, it’s not so hard, came on”
At this point, I think his obscured secret identity actually is his superpower
Tylers “obscured” secret identity is after all a very large lampshade on the golden age/silver age Clark Kent/Superman disguise. Though given that Cecil is the only one who has seen through the disguise, it does make you wonder.
Cecil is a meta that can identify other metas, he just thought that they were aliens at first. Tyler and Cecil have talked about how maybe Tyler does have powers, maybe they just are masked so Cecil can’t detect it.
From what I remember about Cecil’s ‘power’, he can sense the potential for powers. he’s said to Ron, he’s also gone and said that Tyler was the only ‘normal’ person he’s seen at the school. So yeah, I don’t think that Tyler will ever get powers. Naturally that is, he doesn’t have the potential for that, according to Cecil… I think.
I wouldn’t call that discussion “talking about how maybe Tyler does have powers”, I just saw it as Cecil teasing Tyler about the latter’s bewilderment that no one else could see through his shouldn’t-be-this-secret identity. At no point did Cecil appear to be serious in what he was saying.
Oh come on Julie, after doing so well in the egg!
If all the teachers have Moon Shadow in their classes, why would Ms. Kyle, a teacher, tell her to give the membership form to Tyler instead of giving it to him herself?
It’s rather sad to see Tyler so crestfallen in the last panel.
She did well in the egg because she lacked a lot of preconceptions. It’s where the “wise child” and “wise fool” archetypes tend to come from: “Out of the mouths of babes.” So a lot of what she did was apply the lessons a child learns from her parents in being polite and kind and good, and look at things without preconceptions. The only real brilliance on her part was the connection of “eye” to “needle.” The rest was – not to denigrate it – a lack of bias grown from years of experience.
Here, she has a bias and preconception: Tyler is her non-meta friend whom she respects but who definitely is only to be worried about when it comes to the dangers of super-everything, because he literally can’t take care of himself. Moonshadow is a super-duper powerful, ultra-mysterious figure who has new powers as the gossip demands. That they might be the same person literally does not cross her mind, any more than some of the things Julie saw right through crossed the minds of the grown-ups in the egg.
In the egg, she saw almost only what was there, while the adults saw contexts that didn’t apply and got in the way of clear vision. Here, she has context that blinds her to the possibly painfully obvious connection.
Cecil, meanwhile…is a conspiracy nut. His friend who knows all about supers but lacks powers disappears right before another kid with no powers but lots of cool gear shows up, demonstrating connections? He saw what his conspiracy-laden brain begged him to. It just happened to be the truth, here.
OK, just where do I get a copy of the poster hanging behind Tyler and Julie?
The art is from a NASA concept painting of a Stanford Torus done in the 60’s or 70’s. The actual poster complete with snark may be Aaron’s work.
Seconded. I also still want a copy of the poster from Issue 36, where the Powers were informed that they now had twins:
Creativity
If plan “A” will result in a smoking crater where the city used to be, the Chamber of Commerce would probably like it if you came up with a plan “B”.
The poster in the background in the last two panels is rather telling.
“Orbital Headquarters”
“Best when used to protect the people of Earth, not to avoid living among them.”
“Best when used to protect the people of Earth, not to avoid living among them.”
Heck, why not do both?
Because if you distance yourself too far from the people, you risk giving rise to organizations like Cadmus. :-/
Or supers like Tyler’s parents.
Yes, but Cadmus was actually semi-competent. For a while.
To quote Alpha Centauri: “The managers always talked about having the view from 30,000 feet. The only problem with having the view from 30,000 feet, is that at that height, everyone looks like ants.”
The main purpose of an orbital facility is to allow one to see the big picture (observe a large area); however, if one is too fixated on the big picture, one tends to devaluate (or even dehumanize) its composition.
At 30,000 feet, you can’t even see the people. You have to be a lot lower before they’re ant-like.
ZEUS’ RECEPTIONIST: Sire, Perseus is here about an invisibility shield?
ZEUS: Tell him I can’t see him.
Julie is going to kick herself when she finally finds out.
Either that, or when Tyler pulls off his face mask to try and reveal himself, Julie will assume Moon Shadow used his “ultra-darkness powers” to physically swap places with Tyler so he could make his getaway unnoticed. Never underestimate the power people have to avoid seeing what they’re not ready to believe.
Like I said, “when she realizes.” Not “when it should have been revealed but she still justifies it away.” The more she has to come up with really weird excuses to deny it, the dumber she’s going to feel, though.
I suspect nobody is going to be able to realize it before they actually become real friends – not classmates who are friendly with – Tyler as Tyler. Julie, for all that she’s nice, is mostly just a classmate who is friendly with him. She’s only bonded with Moonshadow.
I was reading “finds out” in an external way (not internal realization), which would have still left room for denial. But I think you’re right – it’s probably going to take an actual friendship with Tyler before any of the other kids can figure it out.
He really needs to get that looked at.
I bet every one of the kids is trying to figure out which one of them is secretly Moon Shadow in (another) disguise. And that Tyler isn’t on anybody’s suspect list. And if anyone points out that they’ve all been seen with Moon Shadow at one point or another, they’ll just assume that his ever-growing list of alleged superpowers includes some kind of illusion or duplication power to make people THINK that he was standing next to his alter ego (This could also explain people suspecting classmates who do not match Tyler’s height, build and/or gender, and thus are obviously not Moon Shadow).
Or they will just start keeping a good watch on any shadows etc in the classrooms. Did anyone say moonshadow was actually an enrolled pupil? Or is he just skulking/shadowwalking about?
Considering that his own parents are having a hard time remembering he exists and that Cecil can’t detect any power from him, this a pretty strong super-power of his.
If this actually is a superpower, it’s too strong – to the point of harming its owner…
I don’t know – sure, being forgotten by your own parents would be depressing and hurt horribly, but given the type of parents Ultima and Sovereign are, being forgotten might be less harmful than being remembered…
It’s never that simple with feelings, though, is it?
Even back when Tyler first arrived at PS238 and lived in fear of his life, he told himself that his parents might be deluded, but they still loved him. And now they’ve gone and raised the bar on bad parenting. :-/
No, it isn’t. Even if you can intellectually understand it’s for the better, the heart rebels and doesn’t want to accept it. And even after heart acceptance, the pain can linger. Glad my personal experience with that wasn’t with my parents.
Just re-read my reply and it could be confusing. “No, it isn’t” was me agreeing with your first sentence.
I would never stop laughing if in a later comic all those super teams got mind controlled and Tyler beat all of them using the relatively tame gadgets of the revenant to save them and the world.