Is here an acronym definition for S.i.i.T.S? I see the asterisk, but no footnote. Also, everyone agree that it looks like a cross between the Legion of Superhero Clubhouse and a garden slug?
I’m also not entirely sure logic is the best of coping skill for one to teach a child.
The difference between facts, assumptions, opinions, and statistics are important, but you have a greater appreciation for it when you’re older.
Children have a different concept of justice and binary thinking from adults. Their values and primary or immediate needs are different from those of adults.
I know, four years late, but I feel that I should put this here.
I’ve had to learn to cope with depression. My parents divorced when I was four or five and it wasn’t a year before my dad committed suicide. Coping with what Ron is going through takes time, it takes love, and it takes support. My worst fear for years was turning out like my dad. I have a temper that I thankfully have a firm grasp on, and my dad wasn’t the best role-model for a husband or father. I’ve learned to let things that bother me go, but I’m still struggling with giving myself some slack. I beat myself up, figuratively, over stupid stuff I did back when I was eight, and I’ll be turning twenty-seven this year (2016). I know it’s stupid, but the funny thing about emotions and self-perception is that they don’t care about “clear thinking” or logic. I know my family loves me, but there are times I feel like I’m just a worthless pile of lard. I wonder why do I even bother to get up or draw, or write, or code, when I know that I’m good enough at the last on to have a job and I enjoy the other two.
What the Praetorian Academy is teaching poor Ron isn’t how to cope, but how to repress. Coping means dealing with it, working through it, and overcoming it. It’s not easy. It takes a long time, especially for kids who are in grade school. It also takes love and support, but Ron doesn’t really have access to that now. His mother is off in NYC thanks to the PA and his father doesn’t seem to have a clue about how to be a dad or a husband. They lured in Ron using information that was probably obtained illegally if their tactics are anything to go by to know exactly what to promise him.
What the PA is doing is not teaching kids discipline but turning them into unthinking, unfeeling soldiers. That is what’s creepy.
As far as Ron, I think he needed hugs and someone to listen. Moonshadow was a good choice as he knows a lot about disappointing parents. Fixing a divorce is not a superpower, and no one can do that for Ron. I never thought a superhero/superpowers could fix mine, even as a kid, but that was easier as there are none here. Ron grew up in a world where they could fix many things, but there are limits and even Santa can’t bring back Pop-Pop…
I’m doing better than I was even a few years ago, so no reason to worry about me.
I agree with what you’ve put here, and as someone else earlier has said, it’s interesting how the Ersatz Robin is pretty level-headed and well adjusted while the Ersatz Superboy is angsty and repressed. Luckily, Ron doesn’t stay this way forever.
It sounds more like they’re trying to teach him not to feel at all. Praetorian seems to be more into the “create a brainwashed metahuman army” gig than the “teach children the things they need to know as they grow up” gig.
Oh, and my initial reaction to this page: “Crud, the webcomic’s gotten past the end of the last print volume I have! It’s a good thing I just ordered the next two volumes off Amazon just yesterday…”
Teaching kids, especially boys to suppress their feelings is just begging for trouble in the future. Combine that with a kid with super powers, and you’ve got a good formula for a future super-villain.
True. However, boys are already taught, if not expected, to suppress their emotions. If you have ever seen “We bought a zoo” you’ll know why.
People in general (based on statistics) are horrible judges of character. Someone who doesn’t want to give up is seen as a man defeated when their behavior doesn’t match what is culturally accepted as a “positive” way to express anger.
We have built-in coping mechanism; crying and laughing are two of the biggest. Boys, especially, are programmed by society to not cry, depriving them of that release, and far too often when they laugh, they are stifled prematurely. Both those situations put added stress on boys that have successfully bred a generation of angry, emotionally-suppressed men who can’t handle the least challenging situation without using anger.
Boys gotta cry. Boys gotta laugh.
Teaching them to suppress those things is hurting them, and ultimately, hurting society.
Even when suppressed there are still triggers for emotional release, that is true. And the body will find other methods to release pent up emotions if one is blocked. Instead of crying one vomits, instead of panic one laughs, instead of expressing anger for fear of harming another, self control is thrown to the wind. Such coping strategies would probably prove just as detrimental in a combat situation.
While I will freely admit an opposition to anything along the lines of Plato’s belief that people need to be managed like animals, which is a big shocker considering he came up with the allegory of the cave, self governing one’s own emotions would not negate the existence of said emotions. Then again the philosophers slapped each other silly when they had to make a point
Aristotle knew the importance of emotions and that it wasn’t easy to “control” them. In my opinion mastery does not equal control it equals harmony. If one is in harmony with their emotions then they will be angry at the right person, at the right time, and with the right amount of force, rather than suppressing their and releasing their anger at the wrong person or target.
Is here an acronym definition for S.i.i.T.S? I see the asterisk, but no footnote. Also, everyone agree that it looks like a cross between the Legion of Superhero Clubhouse and a garden slug?
Sorry, I don’t believe teaching children coping skills is creepy.
Replace ‘master’ with ‘suppress’, however…
Yay~ mini-vulcans~
I’m also not entirely sure logic is the best of coping skill for one to teach a child.
The difference between facts, assumptions, opinions, and statistics are important, but you have a greater appreciation for it when you’re older.
Children have a different concept of justice and binary thinking from adults. Their values and primary or immediate needs are different from those of adults.
I know, four years late, but I feel that I should put this here.
I’ve had to learn to cope with depression. My parents divorced when I was four or five and it wasn’t a year before my dad committed suicide. Coping with what Ron is going through takes time, it takes love, and it takes support. My worst fear for years was turning out like my dad. I have a temper that I thankfully have a firm grasp on, and my dad wasn’t the best role-model for a husband or father. I’ve learned to let things that bother me go, but I’m still struggling with giving myself some slack. I beat myself up, figuratively, over stupid stuff I did back when I was eight, and I’ll be turning twenty-seven this year (2016). I know it’s stupid, but the funny thing about emotions and self-perception is that they don’t care about “clear thinking” or logic. I know my family loves me, but there are times I feel like I’m just a worthless pile of lard. I wonder why do I even bother to get up or draw, or write, or code, when I know that I’m good enough at the last on to have a job and I enjoy the other two.
What the Praetorian Academy is teaching poor Ron isn’t how to cope, but how to repress. Coping means dealing with it, working through it, and overcoming it. It’s not easy. It takes a long time, especially for kids who are in grade school. It also takes love and support, but Ron doesn’t really have access to that now. His mother is off in NYC thanks to the PA and his father doesn’t seem to have a clue about how to be a dad or a husband. They lured in Ron using information that was probably obtained illegally if their tactics are anything to go by to know exactly what to promise him.
What the PA is doing is not teaching kids discipline but turning them into unthinking, unfeeling soldiers. That is what’s creepy.
I’m sorry that happened to you.
As far as Ron, I think he needed hugs and someone to listen. Moonshadow was a good choice as he knows a lot about disappointing parents. Fixing a divorce is not a superpower, and no one can do that for Ron. I never thought a superhero/superpowers could fix mine, even as a kid, but that was easier as there are none here. Ron grew up in a world where they could fix many things, but there are limits and even Santa can’t bring back Pop-Pop…
No reason for you to be sorry. 🙂
I’m doing better than I was even a few years ago, so no reason to worry about me.
I agree with what you’ve put here, and as someone else earlier has said, it’s interesting how the Ersatz Robin is pretty level-headed and well adjusted while the Ersatz Superboy is angsty and repressed. Luckily, Ron doesn’t stay this way forever.
I think we’re missing a caption box. What’s the asterisk after SIITS-9000 supposed to point to?
I’ve spent hours trying to find where the asterisk goes.
And replace “clear thinking” with “think what the headmaster wants”
Is there something related with the * that we’re missing?
The thing that is the most wrong is that which is closet to the right.
It sounds more like they’re trying to teach him not to feel at all. Praetorian seems to be more into the “create a brainwashed metahuman army” gig than the “teach children the things they need to know as they grow up” gig.
Oh, and my initial reaction to this page: “Crud, the webcomic’s gotten past the end of the last print volume I have! It’s a good thing I just ordered the next two volumes off Amazon just yesterday…”
Teaching kids, especially boys to suppress their feelings is just begging for trouble in the future. Combine that with a kid with super powers, and you’ve got a good formula for a future super-villain.
And I think that’s exactly the point.
True. However, boys are already taught, if not expected, to suppress their emotions. If you have ever seen “We bought a zoo” you’ll know why.
People in general (based on statistics) are horrible judges of character. Someone who doesn’t want to give up is seen as a man defeated when their behavior doesn’t match what is culturally accepted as a “positive” way to express anger.
We have built-in coping mechanism; crying and laughing are two of the biggest. Boys, especially, are programmed by society to not cry, depriving them of that release, and far too often when they laugh, they are stifled prematurely. Both those situations put added stress on boys that have successfully bred a generation of angry, emotionally-suppressed men who can’t handle the least challenging situation without using anger.
Boys gotta cry. Boys gotta laugh.
Teaching them to suppress those things is hurting them, and ultimately, hurting society.
Even when suppressed there are still triggers for emotional release, that is true. And the body will find other methods to release pent up emotions if one is blocked. Instead of crying one vomits, instead of panic one laughs, instead of expressing anger for fear of harming another, self control is thrown to the wind. Such coping strategies would probably prove just as detrimental in a combat situation.
While I will freely admit an opposition to anything along the lines of Plato’s belief that people need to be managed like animals, which is a big shocker considering he came up with the allegory of the cave, self governing one’s own emotions would not negate the existence of said emotions. Then again the philosophers slapped each other silly when they had to make a point
Aristotle knew the importance of emotions and that it wasn’t easy to “control” them. In my opinion mastery does not equal control it equals harmony. If one is in harmony with their emotions then they will be angry at the right person, at the right time, and with the right amount of force, rather than suppressing their and releasing their anger at the wrong person or target.
What’s with the asterisk?
maybe it’s just called “shooting infinite items to space”? i think the author forgot to put the footnote in, or we’re missing something.
Shoot it into the sun