Well here comes the we must take over earth line… or the we are more similar than we seem (and for the public not to know about them having the Agronite rocks that can end the war quickly because it will litteraly make it so our enemy can’t even stand much less fight back)
…well, what I find interesting is that the Revenant, an ostensibly unaffiliated superhero without any known powers just happens to have a subspace capable communicator in a case in his heli-jet.
Well yeah, he’s not officially affiliated cause the government doesn’t like him, but Ur-Ron trusts him he probably has other superhero friends that can hook him up.
@Rick: As the Revenant told Tyler, “You’d be amazed how many times you spend an unexpected length of time away from home in this line of work.” The Revenant’s super power is access to cash.
He’s also no stranger to space travel, interdimensional incursions or time travel. It was mentioned in passing in one of the “Ask Doctor Positron” columns that ran in the individual issues, that the Revenant had travelled to an alternate universe, where he led a resistance movement that overthrew an interdimensional conqueror (who had the PS238 universe as his next target), and that the new government would only deal with the Revenant (to the dismay of the State Department, the Pentagon and the UN). In addition the Revenant has clearly met a certain alien that travels time and space in a blue box, as seen in an upcoming issue.
No, not the same at all. Clay Industries is owned by Herschel Clay, aka Mantium. He has patented thousands of super gizmos, and he is legally allowed to sell those approved by the Federal Government to civillians. The Revenant has over a dozen civillian identities. One of those identities purchases gadgets (sometimes designed to fulfill a specific need the Revenant has) from Clay Industries. This is 100% legal, at least on Herchel’s end. The Revenant, since he doesn’t pay income tax in most of his civillian identities, is probably skirting the law, but he’s not stealing from his own company (like Chris Nolan’s Bruce Wayne) or using an elaborate money laundering scheme and shell companies to buy from his own company (comic book and Batman: TAS/JLU Bruce Wayne).
Personally, I rate those, least bad to most bad, in the order
– comic book and Batman: TAS/JLU Bruce Wayne’s money laundering and shell companies to perform perfectly legal transactions (this is bad? Seriously? Sure, money laundering and shell companies are usually used to do bad things, and I suspect this Bruce Wayne of doing other things that aren’t completely legal or ethical with them, but this isn’t one of them. I’ve also heard of someone laundering money their parents gave them, without them having asked for it, to give it to charities that attempted to thwart the evil their parents did to swindle money from others. If he was avoiding taxes in all of that money laundering, shame on him, the IRS is a terrible enemy to have, but tax evasion is not intrinsically part of money laundering.)
– Only paying income tax in one civilian identity. I mean, to the extent that income tax is ethical (I’m not taking a stance on that), 100% of ones income should be subject to that tax. Splitting ones income tax into a bunch of identities reduces your overall tax burden because income tax is generally progressive, and you get to take advantage of the low end of your income each time. But if the Revenant makes as much money as he seems, that amount of money is a rounding error, so whatever.
But he’s not doing that. It sounds like he’s paying a fraction of the income tax that he should. I mean, sure, he could be having 100% of his income come through one account and having it all taxed there, and then laundering it into the other identities. That seems unlikely, however. Someone tracking how those other identities are making their money would then get suspicious because it would seem to come out of nowhere. Or, they’d track it hard enough and find that it was all from the Revenant’s taxable ID.
– Stealing from his own company is embezzlement. Chris Nolan’s Bruce Wayne could end up doing hard time for that, although sometimes they let you go if you pay back everything, and it’s possible he has the means to do that. If I’m not mistaken, Wayne Industries is a publicly traded corporation, so that Bruce Wayne is stealing from his shareholders as much as he’s stealing from himself.
There are probably ways that it could be arranged where it would be legal – the bat gear is all stuff to be subject to “gamma testing”, which basically translates to Batman breaks it and then writes up reports on how well it held up. Those evaluations go back into the company and it can improve the product line. The only real issue with that is the people developing that gear would probably notice how similar it is to the stuff that Batman then uses, and the failure reports would look similar to any security camera footage they happened to catch of that night.
Except, the whole “stealing from the company” angle instead only replaces the vulnerability generated by the failure reports matching Batman’s activities with a massive legal one that could (did it?) cost him control of his company, which would put him out of the heroing business as surely as being found out would be.
i like his message: Ron is not taking things well.” . . . No Kidding. he does not know about 84 yet. That is not going to help.
Actually, Ron could fit in pretty well on the planet.
No, Ron would not fit in very well on Argos. Dax-Ra’s racism is only slightly more intense than the average Argosian noble’s towards “softlings”, and Ron’s half-“softling”.
I find nothing strange here. The Revenant is essentially a cheery Batman, therefore he has the superpower of being prepared for everything that could possibly happen.
I wasn’t at ALL suprised. I mean, subspace FTL communicators – they’ve got to be more secure (our worlds top physicists probably couldn’t intercept them, but then they don’t study fictional technologies!), plus I can see the Revenant knowing that at some point he or somebody he wants to contact will end up on an alien planet. And as Meta-Mind said, he’s got the same motto as the Boy Scouts – “Be Prepared”!
So what are the odds Moonshadow has a small capsule filled with a chip of Argonite?
Or better yet a spray canister with a dose of argonite that lasts for a short time possibly marked “In Case of Red Kryptonite…”
Am I the only one who thinks that the reverent needs to start teaching Tyler some basic self-defense? Maybe some Krag-me-ga? Some nerve pinches? Something? Anything?
The Revenant and Coach Rockslide have taught Tyler basic self defense skills. But Ron’s been trained by Coach Rockslide too, not to mention the much tougher instructors at Praetorian Academy. He was able to throw Dax-Ra off balance with relative ease. If Tyler were going to fight Ron, he’d need to use his arsenal of gadgets (smoke bombs, gas pellets, flash goggles, and his electro-magnetic grappler) to balance the odds. What would work better in this situation is diplomacy…
Again, all I’m saying is in the future I hope Tyler becomes a little better at holding his own in a fight. You’re right, this situation does call for talking not hitting, but that will not always be the case. Though I suppose he could always get by on being clever. Nodwick anyone?
Tyler has always relied on his wits. He tricked the Rainmaker kids out of attacking him, long enough for Doctor Irons’ influence to wear off. He figured out how to keep Aurora from possessing Ambriel using Ambriel’s “Guardian Angel” powers and Zodon’s “cleaning system” and Aurora’s vulnerability to water. He kept Cecil from discovering the secret of PS238 using Cecil’s bent towards conspiracy theories against him. The list goes on.
And Tyler has definitely done much better in combat as the series has progressed. He was a little clumsy in the fight with Doctor Irons, but the Revenant was clearly taking the lead. His main contribution to the fight against Charles was tactical. But ever since the fight with the Septos, Moonshadow has been hurling smoke bombs and discs, zapping with his grappler and using other gadgets. Give him a few years and he’ll be just fine.
I was thinking that Moonshadow is amazingly good at keeping his cool and knowing what to do , but then I remembered, he had to grow up with his parents. The poor kid is hypervigilant from being essentially stalked all his life.
Tyler is basically Nodwick, only with a much better Reflex saving throw, a Dexterity score in the mid double-digits, a lot more luck, the respect of his peers and way cooler clothes. Actually, Tyler is more like Floyd than Nodwick, now that I think about it…
It’s not my place to answer but it could be a flourish. Who knows, the city could be based on a city of saints. Sadly, I wasn’t paying attention to the commercials for ‘defiance’ so I’m not entirely sure where the giant archway is. However, that doesn’t minimize it’s significance as an engineering marvel.
Now, THAT’S how you make an entrance.
Well here comes the we must take over earth line… or the we are more similar than we seem (and for the public not to know about them having the Agronite rocks that can end the war quickly because it will litteraly make it so our enemy can’t even stand much less fight back)
The Emerald Ones aren’t affected by Argonite; it won’t help the Argosians win the war. The real prize is much better.
And here it begins: Dax-Ra is already lying to Atlas through his teeth. Why not try “The dog ate the stasis chamber codes?”
Also, the stellar Wi-Fi on Argos is terrible. 🙂
…well, what I find interesting is that the Revenant, an ostensibly unaffiliated superhero without any known powers just happens to have a subspace capable communicator in a case in his heli-jet.
Well yeah, he’s not officially affiliated cause the government doesn’t like him, but Ur-Ron trusts him he probably has other superhero friends that can hook him up.
@Rick: As the Revenant told Tyler, “You’d be amazed how many times you spend an unexpected length of time away from home in this line of work.” The Revenant’s super power is access to cash.
He’s also no stranger to space travel, interdimensional incursions or time travel. It was mentioned in passing in one of the “Ask Doctor Positron” columns that ran in the individual issues, that the Revenant had travelled to an alternate universe, where he led a resistance movement that overthrew an interdimensional conqueror (who had the PS238 universe as his next target), and that the new government would only deal with the Revenant (to the dismay of the State Department, the Pentagon and the UN). In addition the Revenant has clearly met a certain alien that travels time and space in a blue box, as seen in an upcoming issue.
(Besides, wouldn’t Batman do the same thing?)
If I remember correctly, the sub-space transmitter was sold by Clay Industries, as is much of the Revenant’s gear.
Just like most of Batman’s tech is “sold” by Wayne Industries, right?
No, not the same at all. Clay Industries is owned by Herschel Clay, aka Mantium. He has patented thousands of super gizmos, and he is legally allowed to sell those approved by the Federal Government to civillians. The Revenant has over a dozen civillian identities. One of those identities purchases gadgets (sometimes designed to fulfill a specific need the Revenant has) from Clay Industries. This is 100% legal, at least on Herchel’s end. The Revenant, since he doesn’t pay income tax in most of his civillian identities, is probably skirting the law, but he’s not stealing from his own company (like Chris Nolan’s Bruce Wayne) or using an elaborate money laundering scheme and shell companies to buy from his own company (comic book and Batman: TAS/JLU Bruce Wayne).
Personally, I rate those, least bad to most bad, in the order
– comic book and Batman: TAS/JLU Bruce Wayne’s money laundering and shell companies to perform perfectly legal transactions (this is bad? Seriously? Sure, money laundering and shell companies are usually used to do bad things, and I suspect this Bruce Wayne of doing other things that aren’t completely legal or ethical with them, but this isn’t one of them. I’ve also heard of someone laundering money their parents gave them, without them having asked for it, to give it to charities that attempted to thwart the evil their parents did to swindle money from others. If he was avoiding taxes in all of that money laundering, shame on him, the IRS is a terrible enemy to have, but tax evasion is not intrinsically part of money laundering.)
– Only paying income tax in one civilian identity. I mean, to the extent that income tax is ethical (I’m not taking a stance on that), 100% of ones income should be subject to that tax. Splitting ones income tax into a bunch of identities reduces your overall tax burden because income tax is generally progressive, and you get to take advantage of the low end of your income each time. But if the Revenant makes as much money as he seems, that amount of money is a rounding error, so whatever.
But he’s not doing that. It sounds like he’s paying a fraction of the income tax that he should. I mean, sure, he could be having 100% of his income come through one account and having it all taxed there, and then laundering it into the other identities. That seems unlikely, however. Someone tracking how those other identities are making their money would then get suspicious because it would seem to come out of nowhere. Or, they’d track it hard enough and find that it was all from the Revenant’s taxable ID.
– Stealing from his own company is embezzlement. Chris Nolan’s Bruce Wayne could end up doing hard time for that, although sometimes they let you go if you pay back everything, and it’s possible he has the means to do that. If I’m not mistaken, Wayne Industries is a publicly traded corporation, so that Bruce Wayne is stealing from his shareholders as much as he’s stealing from himself.
There are probably ways that it could be arranged where it would be legal – the bat gear is all stuff to be subject to “gamma testing”, which basically translates to Batman breaks it and then writes up reports on how well it held up. Those evaluations go back into the company and it can improve the product line. The only real issue with that is the people developing that gear would probably notice how similar it is to the stuff that Batman then uses, and the failure reports would look similar to any security camera footage they happened to catch of that night.
Except, the whole “stealing from the company” angle instead only replaces the vulnerability generated by the failure reports matching Batman’s activities with a massive legal one that could (did it?) cost him control of his company, which would put him out of the heroing business as surely as being found out would be.
Of course he’s got a subspace communicator. He’s the goshdarn Revenant.
i like his message: Ron is not taking things well.” . . . No Kidding. he does not know about 84 yet. That is not going to help.
Actually, Ron could fit in pretty well on the planet.
No, Ron would not fit in very well on Argos. Dax-Ra’s racism is only slightly more intense than the average Argosian noble’s towards “softlings”, and Ron’s half-“softling”.
I find nothing strange here. The Revenant is essentially a cheery Batman, therefore he has the superpower of being prepared for everything that could possibly happen.
Just in case.
I wasn’t at ALL suprised. I mean, subspace FTL communicators – they’ve got to be more secure (our worlds top physicists probably couldn’t intercept them, but then they don’t study fictional technologies!), plus I can see the Revenant knowing that at some point he or somebody he wants to contact will end up on an alien planet. And as Meta-Mind said, he’s got the same motto as the Boy Scouts – “Be Prepared”!
So what are the odds Moonshadow has a small capsule filled with a chip of Argonite?
Or better yet a spray canister with a dose of argonite that lasts for a short time possibly marked “In Case of Red Kryptonite…”
Could be, could be.
it is amazing what you can put in those belts.
No hot pepperoni pizza tho. . . oh well.
Am I the only one who thinks that the reverent needs to start teaching Tyler some basic self-defense? Maybe some Krag-me-ga? Some nerve pinches? Something? Anything?
I serverly doubt that would work on a FISS.
I just mean in general. I can think of several situations on earth where some fighting skills may have come in handy.
They tried that in Gym on Tyler’s first day at PS238. If memory serves, the result was ‘Can’t die, would look bad for the school.”
The Revenant and Coach Rockslide have taught Tyler basic self defense skills. But Ron’s been trained by Coach Rockslide too, not to mention the much tougher instructors at Praetorian Academy. He was able to throw Dax-Ra off balance with relative ease. If Tyler were going to fight Ron, he’d need to use his arsenal of gadgets (smoke bombs, gas pellets, flash goggles, and his electro-magnetic grappler) to balance the odds. What would work better in this situation is diplomacy…
Again, all I’m saying is in the future I hope Tyler becomes a little better at holding his own in a fight. You’re right, this situation does call for talking not hitting, but that will not always be the case. Though I suppose he could always get by on being clever. Nodwick anyone?
Tyler has always relied on his wits. He tricked the Rainmaker kids out of attacking him, long enough for Doctor Irons’ influence to wear off. He figured out how to keep Aurora from possessing Ambriel using Ambriel’s “Guardian Angel” powers and Zodon’s “cleaning system” and Aurora’s vulnerability to water. He kept Cecil from discovering the secret of PS238 using Cecil’s bent towards conspiracy theories against him. The list goes on.
And Tyler has definitely done much better in combat as the series has progressed. He was a little clumsy in the fight with Doctor Irons, but the Revenant was clearly taking the lead. His main contribution to the fight against Charles was tactical. But ever since the fight with the Septos, Moonshadow has been hurling smoke bombs and discs, zapping with his grappler and using other gadgets. Give him a few years and he’ll be just fine.
Alright, you got me.
I was thinking that Moonshadow is amazingly good at keeping his cool and knowing what to do , but then I remembered, he had to grow up with his parents. The poor kid is hypervigilant from being essentially stalked all his life.
Tyler is basically Nodwick, only with a much better Reflex saving throw, a Dexterity score in the mid double-digits, a lot more luck, the respect of his peers and way cooler clothes. Actually, Tyler is more like Floyd than Nodwick, now that I think about it…
I never noticed before, but… What’s that gray stripe in the background?
It’s not my place to answer but it could be a flourish. Who knows, the city could be based on a city of saints. Sadly, I wasn’t paying attention to the commercials for ‘defiance’ so I’m not entirely sure where the giant archway is. However, that doesn’t minimize it’s significance as an engineering marvel.
It’s the planet’s rings as seen from the surface.
Escorting 84 is a FISS tight rope walker completed with pole but sans rope.
HA! I see it! That is hilarious!
Come to think of it, Atlas must really be enjoying being able to fly everywhere and not having to wait for people for once.